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Why frets? Orchestral strings don’t use frets.
by jagged-chisel 2mo ago
Why frets? Orchestral strings don’t use frets.
- bilegeek 2mo agoFor plucked instruments, besides ease of use, it adds clarity and sustain. Orchestra AFAIK only has Pizzicato where that would matter.
- analog31 2mo agoFrets make chords possible. You only have to put your finger somewhere in between two frets to get a particular note, so you can play more than the tiny handful of chords that can be played on something like a violin. There are non-fretted guitars but they are rare, and I think early banjos were not fretted.
- ErroneousBosh 2mo ago> Frets make chords possible. What do you think double-stops are?
- amanaplanacanal 2mo agoWhimpy-ass chords. You need three or more notes for a serious(tm) chord.
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoFive for the Hendrix Chord, E7♯9 ;-) That's E, G♯, B, D, F
- telotortium 2mo agoEvery jazz player knows you can drop the fifth, and the root too if the bass is filling it in. That gives your fingers room to add even crazier extensions
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoOh man have you seen the Adam Neely video "Seven Level of Jazz Harmony"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3WR-F_pnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz3WR-F_pnM If not, stop and watch it. But make a cup of tea to enjoy with it first, and maybe put a cloth over your keyboard for when you inevitably splutter tea all over it.
- anentropic 2mo agoI read a pretty good argument once that this chord should really be called a b10 (no one does though...)
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoWe seem to have a pretty hardcoded preference for using sharp in everything that's not brass and woodwind, don't we?
- anentropic 2mo agoI think it's also ingrained that the chord starts from 3rd and 5th degrees so numbers above 7 are always adding in one of the other degrees. Or that a chord should have at most 'one of each'. The argument was that this chord is unusual in that it's best thought of as having a second modified 3rd, rather than a #9 (raised 2nd) The major-minor-7 chord is another example of the same degree twice... and we don't call that a maj-14 either
- bluGill 2mo agoThere are those who say it isn't a chord until you have 3 notes. I'm going to skip the complex music theory behind the arguments (I haven't studied them enough to understand much less form an opinion). Of course in most music contexts there is more than one instrument playing and so the others can fill in the missing note making a full chord. Only a "one-man-band" really feels the loss.
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoPower chords only have two notes (although more than two octaves, I don't know if you count that)
- williamdclt 2mo agoIt's self-consistent: those who say that a chord must have at least 3 notes also say that power chords are not technically chords
- dahart 2mo agoWhat do you mean about more than two octaves? The basic power chord is 3 notes, for example E2 + B2 + E3. One of those is an octave.
- BigTTYGothGF 2mo ago"Power chord" sounds cooler than "power dyad".
- jagged-chisel 2mo agoFrets make chords easier
- BigTTYGothGF 2mo agoIt makes hard chords easy, and impossible chords possible (if not easy). Most barre chords, for example.
- anentropic 2mo agoIsn't it the curvature of the fretboard (to allow for bowing individual strings) that prevents chords on a violin rather than lack of frets?
- lebuffon 2mo agoI can play chords on a violin or viola and strum them. Keeping a four-finger chord perfectly in tune in rapid changes is really hard (near impossible) without frets.
- analog31 2mo agoChords can be rolled. Here's an all time favorite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjEVKxQCWs&list=RDngjEVKxQCWs&start_radio=1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjEVKxQCWs&list=RDngjEVKxQC...
- xorcist 2mo agoFretless bass is quite popular though, and they play chords all the time. What would 80s music have been without them? And all uprights are fretless, too. And cellos of course. They can also play chords.
- ErroneousBosh 2mo agoWhat's the difference in sustain time between a cello played pizzicato and a plucked guitar string?
- lebuffon 2mo agoOn fingered strings the guitar sustains for about 10 seconds until the note is very quiet, but still ringing. On a Cello a fingered string is gone in 2 seconds.
- dmoy 2mo agoSustain in college a good friend was a very good Oud player (plucked, some number of strings.... more than 8? I forget), and it definitely sounds different from guitar due to less sustain. Clearer notes and chords, but they don't linger as long or loud. Edit: apparently it's 11 strings? ok.