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The Iranian regime killed in a matter of days approximately the same amount of civilians as the IDF killed in Gaza over the course of their entire operation. T

The Iranian regime killed in a matter of days approximately the same amount of civilians as the IDF killed in Gaza over the course of their entire operation. That’s just the tally from this year, they are also responsible for hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths across Syria, Yemen, Iraq, and Ukraine.

MomsAVoxell 2mo ago
.. as opposed to the tens of millions the Western 5-eyes nations are responsible for, since 2003 .. and the 36 million refugees from our wars .. and the hundreds of thousands murdered in Gaza during the worlds latest preposterous genocide .. I think the moral altitude you are looking for doesn't exist.
stanfordkid 2mo ago
How do you actually know that? Do you fully believe the media and media-adjacent NGO reports of these numbers? You need to understand the level of manipulation going on here. Are you aware that Mossad and Mossad/CIA backed armed revolutionary groups were involved in the protesting, likely with orders to engage in violent resistance. I'm not doubting many were killed, but the "30k+" numbers are clearly garbage. I don't have a side here btw -- I don't like the IRGC one bit. But we have been hearing about "Babies being killed in incubators" since 1990s, one should understand one's own government.
lostmsu 2mo ago
Where do you get these numbers? Cursory search gives 55k killed by Israel and "only" 15k killed by Iran.
EtienneDeLyon 2mo ago
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- woodruffw 2mo ago
  > When the Einsatzgruppen were "cleansing" conquered territory they at least had the decency to do so as humanely as possible. What a grossly offensive and patently false thing to say[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
  - EtienneDeLyon 2mo ago
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    - woodruffw 2mo ago
      You do not have to compare atrocities to make a point.
    - bitcurious 2mo ago
      How many Gazans are left in Gaza? How many Jews were left in Ukraine? Hell, how many Ukrainians remained? About 15% of the Ukrainian population was slaughtered, and the Nazis failed in their war aims. The Israelis succeeded, there is no force stopping them except their domestic politics. Even if you for a second ignore the blatant nazi apologism and focus on the core claim of cruelty, the Nazis committed every one of those atrocities you’ve named, on a scale multiple orders of magnitude greater.
    - bitcurious 2mo ago
      @dang
      - tptacek 2mo ago
        This doesn't do anything. Just email hn@yc.
- dang 2mo ago
  We've banned this account because (1) it has been using the site primarily for ideological/political battle, something we don't allow here*, and (2) it has been posting extreme flamebait, something we also don't allow here**. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html * regardless of what you're battling for or against ** regardless of what you're flaming for or against

MomsAVoxell 2mo ago

.. as opposed to the tens of millions the Western 5-eyes nations are responsible for, since 2003 .. and the 36 million refugees from our wars .. and the hundreds of thousands murdered in Gaza during the worlds latest preposterous genocide .. I think the moral altitude you are looking for doesn't exist.

stanfordkid 2mo ago

How do you actually know that? Do you fully believe the media and media-adjacent NGO reports of these numbers? You need to understand the level of manipulation going on here. Are you aware that Mossad and Mossad/CIA backed armed revolutionary groups were involved in the protesting, likely with orders to engage in violent resistance. I'm not doubting many were killed, but the "30k+" numbers are clearly garbage. I don't have a side here btw -- I don't like the IRGC one bit. But we have been hearing about "Babies being killed in incubators" since 1990s, one should understand one's own government.

lostmsu 2mo ago

Where do you get these numbers? Cursory search gives 55k killed by Israel and "only" 15k killed by Iran.

EtienneDeLyon 2mo ago

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woodruffw 2mo ago
> When the Einsatzgruppen were "cleansing" conquered territory they at least had the decency to do so as humanely as possible. What a grossly offensive and patently false thing to say[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
- EtienneDeLyon 2mo ago
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  - woodruffw 2mo ago
    You do not have to compare atrocities to make a point.
  - bitcurious 2mo ago
    How many Gazans are left in Gaza? How many Jews were left in Ukraine? Hell, how many Ukrainians remained? About 15% of the Ukrainian population was slaughtered, and the Nazis failed in their war aims. The Israelis succeeded, there is no force stopping them except their domestic politics. Even if you for a second ignore the blatant nazi apologism and focus on the core claim of cruelty, the Nazis committed every one of those atrocities you’ve named, on a scale multiple orders of magnitude greater.
  - bitcurious 2mo ago
    @dang
    - tptacek 2mo ago
      This doesn't do anything. Just email hn@yc.
dang 2mo ago
We've banned this account because (1) it has been using the site primarily for ideological/political battle, something we don't allow here*, and (2) it has been posting extreme flamebait, something we also don't allow here**. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html * regardless of what you're battling for or against ** regardless of what you're flaming for or against