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There is a finite number of tokens that a rig will turn out over it's lifetime. Divide the cost of the rig plus electricity by that number and you have your cos
by TurdF3rguson 2mo ago
There is a finite number of tokens that a rig will turn out over it's lifetime. Divide the cost of the rig plus electricity by that number and you have your cost per token. Yes providers can screw up on scheduling and end up paying more than they should, but that's not magic.
- cobbzilla 2mo agoThe AI rigs cost money, sure. But no one is talking about regulating those. We are talking about regulating models, which do have zero cost of reproduction. It’s like banning the leaked DeCSS key. Good luck.
- TurdF3rguson 2mo agoWell, no. We're mostly talking about banning access to models running on someone else's infra. I don't think many people in this thread have the resources to run a frontier model in their living room.
- cobbzilla 2mo agoHow do you do that without banning the model itself. It doesn't matter who can or can't run it. They are trying to ban something that can be represented entirely by a sequence of bytes. An illegal number, like the DeCSS key. The fact that money is involved does not change the free speech aspects. This isn't CSAM or torture porn. It's data.
- TurdF3rguson 2mo agoIt's not the model weights people are panicking over losing access to though. It's the compute.
- cobbzilla 2mo agoIf you mean being forced to overpay for no-longer-SOTA closed models, that’s I guess the protectionist motive here: impossible to enforce, enforcement uneven and political, illegality rampant, I suppose all by design too. I’d say it’s brilliant if it weren’t so evil. I have hope saner minds will prevail.