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Unless you’re from mainland China, you should.
by azinman2 2mo ago
Unless you’re from mainland China, you should.
- xbmcuser 2mo agoNo you should not care unless you are a shareholder in one of these Ai ponzi companies. For the rest of the world Chinese companies matching and open sourcing llm's will keep 100 or so tech oligarchs taking over all the world economic output for themselves as all the idiot politician are unwilling to tax wealth.
- HDBaseT 2mo agoEveryone is technically (directly or indirectly) a shareholder of one of these AI or AI affiliated companies.
- cowboy_henk 2mo agoWe're also shareholders in all other publicly traded stocks (assuming you're referring to pension schemes etc), which means competition in the AI model market is better than a few winners making everyone paying through their nose for access. Even better, open weights models which cannot be disabled on a whim means the entire world economy can benefit.
- stuaxo 2mo agoThe majority being indirect and having no input to how these companies run if we can't get some strong regulation going.
- VulgarExigency 2mo agoWhy? Should we be held hostage to the whims of these companies and all the investors in the throes of AI psychosis, and let them do whatever the fuck they want, because if we don't then the economy will crash?
- owebmaster 2mo agoWhy so? If I'm from Europe or South America, should I hope Anthropic/Openai win?
- RazorBucksICO 2mo agoYes. They’re flawed, but you don’t want a global police state administered by the PRC.
- owebmaster 2mo agoWho said so? I don't want the current global police state administered by the US government and oligarchies
- SZJX 2mo agoNo matter your perception of PRC, I don't see how competition around open-weight models has much to do with a "global police state".
- wasfgwp 2mo agoThe better question is why would any rational consumer would want anyone to “win”? Disappearance of competition is the worst outcome for them (I guess being squeezed by a monopolistic company from your pwn country is slightly nicer)
- m4rtink 2mo agoI think it is only rational to want them to fail & to fail hard, to make an example. To avoid future situations where money is invested on hype only with no regards to what societal disruption it causes.
- azinman2 2mo agoAnswered in a sister thread. Are you from Europe or South America? Or just asking on their behalf? They are allies of the US, which includes economic spheres of influence. The premise of the petrodollar is that allies do better by being a part of it than not, which has been true for many, many decades now. China’s rise is providing an alternative for the first time in 70+ years, but so far it’s very unclear if these benefits will truly extend to allies of China or not. For example, China sends their own laborers when building infrastructure in Africa. Sure there’s new infrastructure but also debt to CCP without any benefits of knowledge transfer or local employment.
- bilbo0s 2mo agoWhy? Serious question. I'm from the US, and I think it's hilarious.
- breppp 2mo agoOne example is that a totalitarian government known for erasing historical record of its crimes will control an arbitrator of truth.
- dylan604 2mo agoso what? this has nothing to do with them taking from those that took before them. china censoring information they do not like is nothing new and seems irrelevant to this conversation
- breppp 2mo agoFair enough you don't care, some people might want to know about the Uyghur happy camps, mass organ harvesting and such. In a world where information sources are only going to dwindle, it is not in anyone's interest to empower actors that will use these to manipulate perceptions
- dylan604 2mo agoThe people that care about that won't be using CCP products/services now will they?
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- 4bpp 2mo agoAnd some people might want to know about [insert your favourite beyond-the-pale-in-the-US topic here, we're on a US forum after all]. I think it would be great if those people could turn to Chinese models, while anyone wanting to know about Uyghur camps can ask the US ones.
- NuclearPM 2mo agoWhy?