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Never once had a problem with an LG because I've never given it internet access. A trustworthy set top box handles everything instead. Concerned that might not

Never once had a problem with an LG because I've never given it internet access. A trustworthy set top box handles everything instead. Concerned that might not be an option in the future.

jmward01 2mo ago
That is my problem. What can you trust anymore? Is there an appliance out there that can do the basics and not be a malware gateway?
- mapt 2mo ago
  Smart TVs replaced dumb TVs not out of consumer demand, but out of subsidy from commercial databrokers and streaming services. Despite adding $100 of hardware they were priced $100 cheaper.
  - lodovic 2mo ago
    I'm always wondering how hard it would be to just remove the hardware for spying. Just keep enough hardware to make it a dumb panel, remove the webos logic boards, wifi antenna, etc.
  - modo_mario 2mo ago
    Is there still any specific brand known for dumb tv's that features the quality and 'non smart' options of the smart variants?
    - throw0101a 2mo ago
      Many OEMs have "commercial" / "corporate" displays that may be applicable: * https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/ https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/
  - iso1631 2mo ago
    Consumers will happily sell their data for a $100 discount. Hell they'll waste 20 minutes watching adverts to save $1.
  - throw0101a 2mo ago
    > Smart TVs replaced dumb TVs not out of consumer demand […] The consumer demand was/is for cheaper, and data mining is how OEMs got there. The general public got what they want, and OEMs got to keep their margins: "win-win". It's the same thing with (US?) airlines: people wanted cheaper, and that's what was offered and they chose.
    - vablings 2mo ago
      Faustian barging, the worst part is people are simple unaware of the dealings
- jddj 2mo ago
  You could give it a vpn to a public cloud provider so that even if they run residential proxies they still get a dirty vps IP. Admittedly this doesn't stop the presumed screenshotting and microphone use and worse
gblargg 2mo ago
LG now installs adware when you merely connect one of their monitors to a Windows PC.

Never once had a problem with an LG because I've never given it internet access. A trustworthy set top box handles everything instead. Concerned that might not be an option in the future.

jmward01 2mo ago

That is my problem. What can you trust anymore? Is there an appliance out there that can do the basics and not be a malware gateway?

mapt 2mo ago
Smart TVs replaced dumb TVs not out of consumer demand, but out of subsidy from commercial databrokers and streaming services. Despite adding $100 of hardware they were priced $100 cheaper.
- lodovic 2mo ago
  I'm always wondering how hard it would be to just remove the hardware for spying. Just keep enough hardware to make it a dumb panel, remove the webos logic boards, wifi antenna, etc.
- modo_mario 2mo ago
  Is there still any specific brand known for dumb tv's that features the quality and 'non smart' options of the smart variants?
  - throw0101a 2mo ago
    Many OEMs have "commercial" / "corporate" displays that may be applicable: * https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/ https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/
- iso1631 2mo ago
  Consumers will happily sell their data for a $100 discount. Hell they'll waste 20 minutes watching adverts to save $1.
- throw0101a 2mo ago
  > Smart TVs replaced dumb TVs not out of consumer demand […] The consumer demand was/is for cheaper, and data mining is how OEMs got there. The general public got what they want, and OEMs got to keep their margins: "win-win". It's the same thing with (US?) airlines: people wanted cheaper, and that's what was offered and they chose.
  - vablings 2mo ago
    Faustian barging, the worst part is people are simple unaware of the dealings
jddj 2mo ago
You could give it a vpn to a public cloud provider so that even if they run residential proxies they still get a dirty vps IP. Admittedly this doesn't stop the presumed screenshotting and microphone use and worse

gblargg 2mo ago

LG now installs adware when you merely connect one of their monitors to a Windows PC.