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I feel like this might be solving a real problem (agents having identity, access controls, etc that are provisioned like you would a regular user) — with this N
by sulam 2mo ago
I feel like this might be solving a real problem (agents having identity, access controls, etc that are provisioned like you would a regular user) — with this Nostr layer that doesn’t really provide any specific value that I can see. So actions are signed, great — this is like telling me I’m going to be using blockchain to store my files because I need crypto on top of my crypto. We see where that ended up. Is Nostr doing anything here that is actually a value add, vs a processing tax that could be done more efficiently with a shared service?
- sroerick 2mo agoI had the same thought - but maybe it's good? I was thinking that if you have a decentralized store than you can connect to it regardless of dev environment. I've used XMPP for orchestration but I can see ergonomic advantages to this.
- baron3dl 2mo agonostr solves for who owns the shared service. nobody. run your own, use an open relay, or pay for one from folks you trust.
- designerarvid 2mo agoWhat problem is that a solution to? Is there a problem with someone owning it, in that case: what?
- baron3dl 2mo agoconsignment to existence as a cloud serf. paying rents to have your data held hostage and exploited by a third party. maybe these aren't problems for you
- barnabee 2mo ago> Is there a problem with someone owning it Yes > what? They can decide you can't use it anymore They can decide to charge more for it They can arbitrarily take features out from under you or change how it works They can read and/or sell/give away/accidentally get exploited and lose your data They can prevent your extracting your data to move away from them They can prevent you building or integrating other tools They control how you can modify or configure the software ...
- __MatrixMan__ 2mo agoMaybe you have enemies that can coerce your service providers into shutting parts of your business down. It happened to WikiLeaks.
- andunie 2mo agoI don't think that's what Nostr solves. It's more like an interoperability layer.
- sulam 2mo agoThe story right now is to own the least you possibly can, at least if you're a business. If I can buy it that's usually the right choice, in terms of opportunity cost if nothing else.
- baron3dl 2mo agonostr doesn't make anyone buy any more or less than they want. it enables freedom of movement if your landlord becomes exploitative.
- tlongwell-block 2mo agoNostr gives you and your agents a durable, portable identity across communities/relays/workspaces. You can also independently verify that the messages you're reading came from the person/agent who sent them, even if the server/relay operator is broken or trying to trick you. This can be important in environments that live outside of enterprise auth walled gardens.
- barnabee 2mo agoI like that using keypairs and signed messages inverts the centralised server and SaaS model and makes things more local/client first. I wish more products would move that way. Nostr seems like a reasonably convenient way to achieve that without building everything from scratch, but maybe there a better ways?
- andunie 2mo agoIn my understanding there is not much here in the Nostr part that is different than a simple server. If that's the case, why not?