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That is 0.923 Euros a Liter according to Google. That's dirt cheap.

by accountofthaha 2mo ago

fabian2k 2mo ago
How many liters per 100 km does a typical US car consume?
- accountofthaha 2mo ago
  I have no idea, and what do you mean by 'typical US car'? Like a US car model or just the fact Americans drive more? A lot of Europeans do drive as much as Americans do, like me and truckers etc. Having 2,34 a liter here in NL makes that a pain in the arse. Also: using more fuel on average doesn't invalidate that American fuel, compared to Europe, is dirt cheap. Edit: also wanna add there are many 'American' cars on the road here, like Ford F-150s etc. They are imported, but have the same fuel consumption as the US variant, as being the same as the US variant.
  - seszett 2mo ago
    > there are many 'American' cars on the road here I'd say the Netherlands is the exception here, almost all such cars that I see on the roads (mostly in France) are from the Netherlands, along with some from Belgium. They are also mostly driven by maniacs apparently.
- stasomatic 2mo ago
  My wife drives a VW that's built locally in Tennessee. The engine is from Mexico, the transmission used be from Japan. I think it's a Korean unit now produced on a license. Optimistically, it drinks about 11L per 100KM. Stop and go will severely increase consumption. It's a large car to you, but it's kind of midsize here.
  - accountofthaha 2mo ago
    I looked it up, and that car isn't being sold here and would indeed be in the 'big SUV' range. About 3% of cars here are those cars, while in the USA it's about 10-20%. But question: why drive that car, with that milage, while you could have a slightly smaller car with better milage? I just don't get that.
    - stasomatic 2mo ago
      But question: why drive that car, with that milage, while you could have a slightly smaller car with better milage? I just don't get that. I am long time VW driver. I've had several GTIs, have driven the Rabbits, the Corrodos, the Sciroccos. My fave was my '95 Driver's Edition GTI, the one with the the golf ball for the manual transmission knob. Things have changed. I have a mini bear 120 lbs Akita. 2 bikes that fit nicely in the trunk of the Atlas (mine is Cross Sport), so that we don't have to deal with hitches and bike racks. I've spent thousands on Thule bike racks and don't like the experience when backing up and maneuvering, the constant beeps and near panic attack level alerts. We also live in Miami, where biblical level floods are at least twice a year. The clearance helps. My wife refuses to drive a sedan, because they really float down the street when it rains, you might as well get row paddles and a sail. And, I won't risk driving my EV (Hyundai Ioniq 5) in such conditions. It's the states/urban planning fault, but here we are. Even the Atlas's clearance isn't much help in these conditions, I've seen lifted Toyota trucks just slide into the canals. In addition, and I can't tell what's the chicken or what's the egg, but we don't have access to inexpensive utilitarian vehicles in the US. The manifucatures dropped low margin vehicles, everything is luxury this or that, that includes European brands that export to the US. I love small cars, it's that we only have a few on the market, and the ones that remain don't make sense financially. My 2010 Mini Cooper was a hoot to drive, I drove it with my Weimaraner (RIP Lotus) coast to coast twice with room to spare. while in the USA it's about 10-20% These numbers look too low. When I lived in North Carolina a few years ago, seemingly every other vehicle was either an F150 or a Ram or a Silverado, and that's not counting SUVs. The US is not a monoculture.
consp 2mo ago
I thought wait isn't it lower, but that's imperial gallon which is about 3/4l more per gallon. I always mess those up.
- accountofthaha 2mo ago
  Imperial is the British variant right?
KingOfCoders 2mo ago
There are many variables to prices, like larger cities, longer commutes (US drivers drive 2x km per year compared to Germany), bigger cars with worse gas mileage - so higher taxes on gas with higher gas prices (like in Germany) would probably kill the US economy.
- accountofthaha 2mo ago
  I do understand that. I am not invalidating the reasons behind it, but it doesn't change the fact it's cheaper. Here we also have trucks, cars etc that take long commutes and thus a very high price will bring the price of transpiration up. Also I would argue it's maybe better for the US to use smaller cars, since it thus becomes quite cheap to drive. Also this would probably make the roads safer, as bigger cars (mostly) equal unsafer cars (and shit drivers, but that's just my opinion tbh).
porridgeraisin 2mo ago
How is it much more expensive in europe? cos in india where we import most of our ONG and its one of the more expensive things on a household bill, it is right now 102INR/L = 0.93 EUR/L.
- accountofthaha 2mo ago
  Okay sorry it's 11 days later, but: mostly taxes etc. Also because the fuel is 'made' partly here (refined), it makes it more costly since workers and also taxes are higher. Also the Netherlands where I live is very expensive, while Sweden it's 0,50 cents at least lower.

That is 0.923 Euros a Liter according to Google. That's dirt cheap.

fabian2k 2mo ago

How many liters per 100 km does a typical US car consume?

accountofthaha 2mo ago
I have no idea, and what do you mean by 'typical US car'? Like a US car model or just the fact Americans drive more? A lot of Europeans do drive as much as Americans do, like me and truckers etc. Having 2,34 a liter here in NL makes that a pain in the arse. Also: using more fuel on average doesn't invalidate that American fuel, compared to Europe, is dirt cheap. Edit: also wanna add there are many 'American' cars on the road here, like Ford F-150s etc. They are imported, but have the same fuel consumption as the US variant, as being the same as the US variant.
- seszett 2mo ago
  > there are many 'American' cars on the road here I'd say the Netherlands is the exception here, almost all such cars that I see on the roads (mostly in France) are from the Netherlands, along with some from Belgium. They are also mostly driven by maniacs apparently.
stasomatic 2mo ago
My wife drives a VW that's built locally in Tennessee. The engine is from Mexico, the transmission used be from Japan. I think it's a Korean unit now produced on a license. Optimistically, it drinks about 11L per 100KM. Stop and go will severely increase consumption. It's a large car to you, but it's kind of midsize here.
- accountofthaha 2mo ago
  I looked it up, and that car isn't being sold here and would indeed be in the 'big SUV' range. About 3% of cars here are those cars, while in the USA it's about 10-20%. But question: why drive that car, with that milage, while you could have a slightly smaller car with better milage? I just don't get that.
  - stasomatic 2mo ago
    But question: why drive that car, with that milage, while you could have a slightly smaller car with better milage? I just don't get that. I am long time VW driver. I've had several GTIs, have driven the Rabbits, the Corrodos, the Sciroccos. My fave was my '95 Driver's Edition GTI, the one with the the golf ball for the manual transmission knob. Things have changed. I have a mini bear 120 lbs Akita. 2 bikes that fit nicely in the trunk of the Atlas (mine is Cross Sport), so that we don't have to deal with hitches and bike racks. I've spent thousands on Thule bike racks and don't like the experience when backing up and maneuvering, the constant beeps and near panic attack level alerts. We also live in Miami, where biblical level floods are at least twice a year. The clearance helps. My wife refuses to drive a sedan, because they really float down the street when it rains, you might as well get row paddles and a sail. And, I won't risk driving my EV (Hyundai Ioniq 5) in such conditions. It's the states/urban planning fault, but here we are. Even the Atlas's clearance isn't much help in these conditions, I've seen lifted Toyota trucks just slide into the canals. In addition, and I can't tell what's the chicken or what's the egg, but we don't have access to inexpensive utilitarian vehicles in the US. The manifucatures dropped low margin vehicles, everything is luxury this or that, that includes European brands that export to the US. I love small cars, it's that we only have a few on the market, and the ones that remain don't make sense financially. My 2010 Mini Cooper was a hoot to drive, I drove it with my Weimaraner (RIP Lotus) coast to coast twice with room to spare. while in the USA it's about 10-20% These numbers look too low. When I lived in North Carolina a few years ago, seemingly every other vehicle was either an F150 or a Ram or a Silverado, and that's not counting SUVs. The US is not a monoculture.

consp 2mo ago

I thought wait isn't it lower, but that's imperial gallon which is about 3/4l more per gallon. I always mess those up.

accountofthaha 2mo ago
Imperial is the British variant right?

KingOfCoders 2mo ago

There are many variables to prices, like larger cities, longer commutes (US drivers drive 2x km per year compared to Germany), bigger cars with worse gas mileage - so higher taxes on gas with higher gas prices (like in Germany) would probably kill the US economy.

accountofthaha 2mo ago
I do understand that. I am not invalidating the reasons behind it, but it doesn't change the fact it's cheaper. Here we also have trucks, cars etc that take long commutes and thus a very high price will bring the price of transpiration up. Also I would argue it's maybe better for the US to use smaller cars, since it thus becomes quite cheap to drive. Also this would probably make the roads safer, as bigger cars (mostly) equal unsafer cars (and shit drivers, but that's just my opinion tbh).

porridgeraisin 2mo ago

How is it much more expensive in europe? cos in india where we import most of our ONG and its one of the more expensive things on a household bill, it is right now 102INR/L = 0.93 EUR/L.

accountofthaha 2mo ago
Okay sorry it's 11 days later, but: mostly taxes etc. Also because the fuel is 'made' partly here (refined), it makes it more costly since workers and also taxes are higher. Also the Netherlands where I live is very expensive, while Sweden it's 0,50 cents at least lower.