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The headache I recently had was it somehow started interpreting mouse clicks in the terminal to mean I clicked an option when I was really just trying to get/co

The headache I recently had was it somehow started interpreting mouse clicks in the terminal to mean I clicked an option when I was really just trying to get/confirm window focus.

kenny11 2mo ago
This bit me too. If I wanted a mouse-driven app, I'd use the GUI. I don't understand why they're trying to replicate that experience in a text environment.
- mey 2mo ago
  Vibes
the_gipsy 2mo ago
The new fullscreen UI is really bad. The old one (scrolling) starts to bug out after a while, but it van just be restarted and resumed.
- hombre_fatal 2mo ago
  Both Claude Code and Codex have issues overwriting or duplicating text for me when scrolling. Probably from trying to keep scrollback virtual while anticipating terminal resize. But I wouldn't mind a way to opt back in to naive, unlimited convo scrollback.
  - tubs 2mo ago
    On codex the “no alt screen” option seems to help
bouke 2mo ago
Yeah same here, very annoying and counterproductive. The terminal is not a place where one expects hot buttons.
overgard 2mo ago
They also randomly changed how copy-paste works in a way that made it really annoying to copy text. Vibe-coders pumping out features: this is the reaction you're going to get if you inflict this on your users! Nobody wants software that updates every day and changes in fundamental ways that are hard to keep up with.
- ryandvm 2mo ago
  Yes! This is awful. CC should not have copy/paste behavior that is different from literally every other CLI app.
  - neerajsi 2mo ago
    I wonder if it's the same behavior as copilot cli. I dug into it when I got annoyed and found that there's a fundamental tension between rendering the cell based UI and supporting the terminal's native copy paste. At least on copilot cli there were extra zero width characters being copied.
    - wlamartin 2mo ago
      My memory is that once you begin using the alternate screen, you need to turn on mouse reporting, and then you lose native copy. Different terminal emulators also act totally differently when in this state.
- hungryhobbit 2mo ago
  THIS ONE IS HORRIBLE! Copy/paste is one of the most basic, low-level features of a modern operating system. NO APPLICATION SHOULD EVER SCREW WITH IT, IN ANY WAY! And I say this not just as a seriously annoyed user, but also as a professional UI developer: it is a well-known anti-pattern to override the user's expectations, at any level ... and that applies tenfold to the most basic patterns that every other app follows. I don't care if you added a magic way to write all my code for me: if the only way to invoke it is to break copy/paste, you've failed at development!
brabel 2mo ago
I saw that but it asked me if I wanted to optin first! I did accidentally and hated it since I always click on the terminal to make it focused and now accidentally click on something that actually responds!
allenu 2mo ago
I really hate that change. It's counterintuitive that a shell recognizes mouse clicks to mean "select this option". Also, the auto-copy selected text feature is awful. That's another thing that is so counterintuitive. I have never seen a UI where just selecting text means auto-copy to the paste buffer. Who is coming up with these awful UX ideas? On top of that, the scroll "feel" of the new client (at least on macOS) isn't quite as good as their old one. It just feels off and not like a native terminal.
- bostik 2mo ago
  > I have never seen a UI where just selecting text means auto-copy to the paste buffer. Isn't this the default behaviour of every X application since the 1990's?
  - allenu 2mo ago
    I stand corrected. I haven't used X in a long time, but I think you're right.
alansaber 2mo ago
Ah yes the TUI is the place to ship mouse cursor based features for sure

The headache I recently had was it somehow started interpreting mouse clicks in the terminal to mean I clicked an option when I was really just trying to get/confirm window focus.

kenny11 2mo ago

This bit me too. If I wanted a mouse-driven app, I'd use the GUI. I don't understand why they're trying to replicate that experience in a text environment.

mey 2mo ago
Vibes

the_gipsy 2mo ago

The new fullscreen UI is really bad. The old one (scrolling) starts to bug out after a while, but it van just be restarted and resumed.

hombre_fatal 2mo ago
Both Claude Code and Codex have issues overwriting or duplicating text for me when scrolling. Probably from trying to keep scrollback virtual while anticipating terminal resize. But I wouldn't mind a way to opt back in to naive, unlimited convo scrollback.
- tubs 2mo ago
  On codex the “no alt screen” option seems to help

bouke 2mo ago

Yeah same here, very annoying and counterproductive. The terminal is not a place where one expects hot buttons.

overgard 2mo ago

They also randomly changed how copy-paste works in a way that made it really annoying to copy text. Vibe-coders pumping out features: this is the reaction you're going to get if you inflict this on your users! Nobody wants software that updates every day and changes in fundamental ways that are hard to keep up with.

ryandvm 2mo ago
Yes! This is awful. CC should not have copy/paste behavior that is different from literally every other CLI app.
- neerajsi 2mo ago
  I wonder if it's the same behavior as copilot cli. I dug into it when I got annoyed and found that there's a fundamental tension between rendering the cell based UI and supporting the terminal's native copy paste. At least on copilot cli there were extra zero width characters being copied.
  - wlamartin 2mo ago
    My memory is that once you begin using the alternate screen, you need to turn on mouse reporting, and then you lose native copy. Different terminal emulators also act totally differently when in this state.
hungryhobbit 2mo ago
THIS ONE IS HORRIBLE! Copy/paste is one of the most basic, low-level features of a modern operating system. NO APPLICATION SHOULD EVER SCREW WITH IT, IN ANY WAY! And I say this not just as a seriously annoyed user, but also as a professional UI developer: it is a well-known anti-pattern to override the user's expectations, at any level ... and that applies tenfold to the most basic patterns that every other app follows. I don't care if you added a magic way to write all my code for me: if the only way to invoke it is to break copy/paste, you've failed at development!

brabel 2mo ago

I saw that but it asked me if I wanted to optin first! I did accidentally and hated it since I always click on the terminal to make it focused and now accidentally click on something that actually responds!

allenu 2mo ago

I really hate that change. It's counterintuitive that a shell recognizes mouse clicks to mean "select this option". Also, the auto-copy selected text feature is awful. That's another thing that is so counterintuitive. I have never seen a UI where just selecting text means auto-copy to the paste buffer. Who is coming up with these awful UX ideas? On top of that, the scroll "feel" of the new client (at least on macOS) isn't quite as good as their old one. It just feels off and not like a native terminal.

bostik 2mo ago
> I have never seen a UI where just selecting text means auto-copy to the paste buffer. Isn't this the default behaviour of every X application since the 1990's?
- allenu 2mo ago
  I stand corrected. I haven't used X in a long time, but I think you're right.

alansaber 2mo ago

Ah yes the TUI is the place to ship mouse cursor based features for sure