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People need to stop yelling "Slop!" all the time and saying silly things like "every line of code was reviewed by a human". First, it's ridiculous. There is no

by zcw100 2mo ago

People need to stop yelling "Slop!" all the time and saying silly things like "every line of code was reviewed by a human". First, it's ridiculous. There is no possible way to verify that claim, determine what was or wasn't done after reviewing it, and there's no reason to review every single line. It's performative. I have a ton of stuff I haven't bothered contributing. Why? So I can deal with all the hate? When it was "many hands make light work" there was value in sharing the load. Now I've got a backhoe and it's not worth the hassle.

overgard 2mo ago
It's not performative though. Slop is a burden. I'm sorry you feel excluded by that, but an AI generated PR is not of much value. The maintainer could just as easily do that, if that's what they wanted. Plus lets be realistic about why people contribute slop PRs, it's not for the betterment of the project usually, it's because they either want credit for a "contribution" they didn't bother to make themselves (If you give credit for that, then being a "contributor" is a worthless badge), or they're spamming people for bug bounties.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  It's an underrated point that providing LLM output to someone else is worthless because if they wanted it, they could put in the same input.
  - quantummagic 2mo ago
    Forming the prompt is still a skill, tokens aren't free, and it all takes some time and attention, which also has a price. So someone else doing that for you isn't exactly worthless, if they do a good job of it.
    - overgard 2mo ago
      Forming prompts is not a noteworthy skill. This is just a PM fantasy.
    - inigyou 2mo ago
      If they do a good job of it it won't be identifiable as AI output.
linsomniac 2mo ago
>People need to stop yelling "Slop!" all the time People are applying that label to anything that has the taint of AI on it. I get why. I realize there are a lot of reasons why people hate AI, but one that is frequently cited is that it's dehumanizing. It's kind of ridiculous to see those same sort of people call something "slop" when I've put tens of hours into guiding the AI tooling. Talk about dehumanizing!

by zcw100 2mo ago

overgard 2mo ago

It's not performative though. Slop is a burden. I'm sorry you feel excluded by that, but an AI generated PR is not of much value. The maintainer could just as easily do that, if that's what they wanted. Plus lets be realistic about why people contribute slop PRs, it's not for the betterment of the project usually, it's because they either want credit for a "contribution" they didn't bother to make themselves (If you give credit for that, then being a "contributor" is a worthless badge), or they're spamming people for bug bounties.

inigyou 2mo ago
It's an underrated point that providing LLM output to someone else is worthless because if they wanted it, they could put in the same input.
- quantummagic 2mo ago
  Forming the prompt is still a skill, tokens aren't free, and it all takes some time and attention, which also has a price. So someone else doing that for you isn't exactly worthless, if they do a good job of it.
  - overgard 2mo ago
    Forming prompts is not a noteworthy skill. This is just a PM fantasy.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    If they do a good job of it it won't be identifiable as AI output.

linsomniac 2mo ago

>People need to stop yelling "Slop!" all the time People are applying that label to anything that has the taint of AI on it. I get why. I realize there are a lot of reasons why people hate AI, but one that is frequently cited is that it's dehumanizing. It's kind of ridiculous to see those same sort of people call something "slop" when I've put tens of hours into guiding the AI tooling. Talk about dehumanizing!