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by Lomlioto 2mo ago

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rektomatic 2mo ago
Isn't that the documentary that cited a study saying all snow would disappear forever from Earth by the year 2013?
- Lomlioto 2mo ago
  No
- Max_Mustermann 2mo ago
  They had a scientist saying the Arctic could be "ice-free" in the summer by 2013. The new forecast is for that to happen sometime mid-century.
- Sharlin 2mo ago
  I'm not sure if you're being actively malicious or just a great example of how lies can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes, but your comment is a great example of what we're up against here. If by "all snow would disappear forever from Earth" you meant "the Arctic could be seasonal-ice-free in the summer" by 2013, then, sure.
tomhow 2mo ago
Please don't post flame bait on HN, including population-wide swipes like “the ignorance of the common human being”. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Lomlioto 2mo ago
  But in this particular case its true and the fundamental issue we have? "Ignorance is the fundamental lack of knowledge, information, or awareness about a particular subject." Its not even an evaluation of my side. I'm fine with accepting that people have to work, are busy with other things, struggle in live etc. But the sentence in itself is not bad? And it directly references op.
  - tomhow 2mo ago
    If it's true “in this particular case”, it's true of every other case too, and thus it's not really a substantive assertion. It's just a fact of life that affects everything, and pointing it out in this particular instance reeks of “shouting into the void”. Sure it might be cathartic but it doesn't move us any closer to a solution, and serves only to make us more miserable. In HN guidelines terms it can be seen as fulmination or curmudgeonliness, which we're specifically trying to avoid here. It would be much better to think about novel ways of overcoming the issue and sharing that in the spirit of curious conversation, which is the primary ethos of HN.
    - Lomlioto 2mo ago
      I have spend so much time and energy in the last 6 years talking about it, trying to do stuff, isn't it sometimes valid to just respond like this to at least have a short outlet? After all i didn't create an original comment, i leveraged a response instead.

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rektomatic 2mo ago

Isn't that the documentary that cited a study saying all snow would disappear forever from Earth by the year 2013?

Lomlioto 2mo ago
No
Max_Mustermann 2mo ago
They had a scientist saying the Arctic could be "ice-free" in the summer by 2013. The new forecast is for that to happen sometime mid-century.
Sharlin 2mo ago
I'm not sure if you're being actively malicious or just a great example of how lies can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes, but your comment is a great example of what we're up against here. If by "all snow would disappear forever from Earth" you meant "the Arctic could be seasonal-ice-free in the summer" by 2013, then, sure.

tomhow 2mo ago

Please don't post flame bait on HN, including population-wide swipes like “the ignorance of the common human being”. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Lomlioto 2mo ago
But in this particular case its true and the fundamental issue we have? "Ignorance is the fundamental lack of knowledge, information, or awareness about a particular subject." Its not even an evaluation of my side. I'm fine with accepting that people have to work, are busy with other things, struggle in live etc. But the sentence in itself is not bad? And it directly references op.
- tomhow 2mo ago
  If it's true “in this particular case”, it's true of every other case too, and thus it's not really a substantive assertion. It's just a fact of life that affects everything, and pointing it out in this particular instance reeks of “shouting into the void”. Sure it might be cathartic but it doesn't move us any closer to a solution, and serves only to make us more miserable. In HN guidelines terms it can be seen as fulmination or curmudgeonliness, which we're specifically trying to avoid here. It would be much better to think about novel ways of overcoming the issue and sharing that in the spirit of curious conversation, which is the primary ethos of HN.
  - Lomlioto 2mo ago
    I have spend so much time and energy in the last 6 years talking about it, trying to do stuff, isn't it sometimes valid to just respond like this to at least have a short outlet? After all i didn't create an original comment, i leveraged a response instead.