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I always hated writing code but loved debugging. LLM super charges systems thinkers & auditors, it’s just a different process and no different than copy and pas

I always hated writing code but loved debugging. LLM super charges systems thinkers & auditors, it’s just a different process and no different than copy and paste from stack overflow. It all comes down to the architecture design and LLM just exposes how bad people are at designing dynamic architectures.

TacticalCoder 2mo ago
> ... and no different than copy and paste from stack overflow. It's even got a name: sloppy-pasta.
girvo 2mo ago
> and no different than copy and paste from stack overflow This isn't really the point of your comment, and for that I apologise, but: not all of us did that. For many good reasons, too.
- pydry 2mo ago
  Yeah, the more I hear about people writing "boilerplate" or "copy pasting" code faster using LLMs the more I think it's mainly a tool for letting you write brittle, buggy code, faster.
- monk_grilla 2mo ago
  > not all of us did that. For many good reasons, too. This isn't really the point of your comment, and for that I apologise, but I still haven't gotten used to speaking about what we "used to do" in the past tense, as if we are in a post-programming world... We are already starting to speak of the habits we used to have (or not have), how things used to be done back in the day (1-2 years ago). I don't think you're wrong to do so. I find myself saying it sometimes too. Just an observation about the weird world we find ourselves in.
  - girvo 2mo ago
    For what it’s worth, I was talking in response to the original commenter who was talking in past tense, I was merely responding in kind :) I would argue that SO is basically “done”, though. For better or worse. I still write code by hand. I use LLMs too. Weird world for sure.
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    Objectively, the usage metrics at Stack Overflow are showing that it is already dead. Very few people are still accessing it for any reason. While programming might not be in the past, Stack Overflow very much is.
imtringued 2mo ago
I'm not sure this is a good combination? I mean you're basically saying it is a good thing if the LLM messes up so you have a reason to debug the code.
leptons 2mo ago
>architecture design and LLM just exposes how bad people are at designing dynamic architectures Speak for yourself. A lot of people have great abilities at designing "dynamic architectures" and anything else an LLM is used for. It sounds like you don't realize that an LLM is only capable of what it does because it was trained on human-written code.

TacticalCoder 2mo ago

> ... and no different than copy and paste from stack overflow. It's even got a name: sloppy-pasta.

girvo 2mo ago

> and no different than copy and paste from stack overflow This isn't really the point of your comment, and for that I apologise, but: not all of us did that. For many good reasons, too.

pydry 2mo ago
Yeah, the more I hear about people writing "boilerplate" or "copy pasting" code faster using LLMs the more I think it's mainly a tool for letting you write brittle, buggy code, faster.
monk_grilla 2mo ago
> not all of us did that. For many good reasons, too. This isn't really the point of your comment, and for that I apologise, but I still haven't gotten used to speaking about what we "used to do" in the past tense, as if we are in a post-programming world... We are already starting to speak of the habits we used to have (or not have), how things used to be done back in the day (1-2 years ago). I don't think you're wrong to do so. I find myself saying it sometimes too. Just an observation about the weird world we find ourselves in.
- girvo 2mo ago
  For what it’s worth, I was talking in response to the original commenter who was talking in past tense, I was merely responding in kind :) I would argue that SO is basically “done”, though. For better or worse. I still write code by hand. I use LLMs too. Weird world for sure.
- inigyou 2mo ago
  Objectively, the usage metrics at Stack Overflow are showing that it is already dead. Very few people are still accessing it for any reason. While programming might not be in the past, Stack Overflow very much is.

imtringued 2mo ago

I'm not sure this is a good combination? I mean you're basically saying it is a good thing if the LLM messes up so you have a reason to debug the code.

leptons 2mo ago

>architecture design and LLM just exposes how bad people are at designing dynamic architectures Speak for yourself. A lot of people have great abilities at designing "dynamic architectures" and anything else an LLM is used for. It sounds like you don't realize that an LLM is only capable of what it does because it was trained on human-written code.