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by ukd1 2mo ago
This. See https://9mothers.com https://9mothers.com
- atoav 2mo agoUntil drones deploy counter-blinkenlights. As someone who has built a realtime people tracker art installation in a disco: Stroboscopes are highly effective at confusing these models.
- ukd1 2mo agoYa, things always evolve, and can't always be perfect, especially against adapting enemies. Strobes; ya - would be interesting to see what these do vs us, not tried.
- delichon 2mo agoDisco or death? It's not an easy choice. Which Bee Gees song is optimal? Does it help if I wear a leisure suit? Is the coke optional?
- mynegation 2mo agoStayin’ Alive - obviously
- TacticalCoder 2mo agoUpvoted: I love it when the old /. spirit lives on HN!
- fragmede 2mo agoAccording to the fine article, a zebra patterned suit is recommended.
- electroglyph 2mo agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh1o_03ilQY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh1o_03ilQY
- XorNot 2mo agoYes but you're trying to identify people. A military system is being launched at an area to destroy a target that is presumed to be trying to hide (hence AI). Absolutely nothing stops a secondary, much simpler identifier system of "home on bright flickering lights". Any system where you try to confuse an image recognition model by loudly doing something unexpected suffers from the fact that regular tracking systems have been good at finding those for a long time. No AI model confusion tech is worthwhile if it otherwise makes something much more visible by other means - it's a scifi trope that people want something "obvious" to be invisible to the machine. It's not how reality works though.
- nine_k 2mo agoThere's a limit to the number of targeting systems you can afford to deploy on a weapon, and there's the problem of reconciling their signals if their views of where the target is start to diverge. "Counter-blinkenlights" are well-known as thermal flares, and more similar but as crude, [dazzlers] that blind the incoming rockets' sensors. [dazzlers]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzler_(weapon) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzler_(weapon)
- XorNot 2mo agoBut it's not a separate system, it's just a separate algorithm - it's software. "No target" by AI but "target" by the "engage light sources" recognizer is still successful targeting. "No target" versus "aim at anything not green or blue" is as well. It's also a question of the speeds involved: a dazzler on high speed jet versus a high speed missile might cause a near miss which means hundreds of meters of actual separation. Diving drone vs. truck? Not so much.
- ahartmetz 2mo agoAFAIU, a dazzler is intended to blind the whole sensor, so home on dazzler would need specialized hardware, not only a software adjustment. (Replying to other messages in this thread)
- atoav 2mo agoConsider reading the post I commented on.