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SimPolitics: America’s quest to solve politics with computers
https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/6166/SimPoliticsAmerica-s-Quest-to-Solve-Politics-with https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/6166/SimPoliticsAm...
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- ChrisArchitect 2mo agoTitle is: SimPolitics - America’s Quest to Solve Politics with Computers
- mckelveyf 2mo agoThanks! I should have put that in the post in the first place
- JimsonYang 2mo agoWouldnt this be a show hn?
- nerdsniper 2mo agoNot really. ShowHN’s are for interactive things and are supposed to be free and generally shouldn’t require account creation. “Reading material” is specifically called out as being off topic! https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html
- mckelveyf 2mo agoI was tempted with Show HN, but it also seems more like demos, and this is more a link to an open access book so I thought it was more reading material.
- al_hag 2mo agoOpen access link https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/6166/SimPoliticsAmerica-s-Quest-to-Solve-Politics-with https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/6166/SimPoliticsAm...
- mckelveyf 2mo agoThank you! Hope you find it interesting!
- hn_user82179 2mo agois this your book? thanks for sharing! This isn't at all my domain of knowledge but I have a little unexpected free time on my hands and am excite to learn something new. Your book Internet Daemons looks interesting too
- mckelveyf 2mo agoYeah, it's my book and happy to answer any questions too. Internet Daemons is open access too: https://www.internetdaemons.com/ https://www.internetdaemons.com/ I'm Fenwick dot McKelvey at Concordia dot ca if you have questions.
- boznz 2mo agoThank you for this, I'm going to give it a read. I am unfortunately very bearish on politics in general. All politicians think short term, look after themselves, their families, their friends, and their interests first; Facts, and working simulations just get in the way. (I am still looking for a politician that is an exception to this rule) Human nature is unfortunately real, and the only way I can see to "solve politics" is to remove human's entirely, but that comes with a whole new set of issues and is another book I guess.
- blindhippo 2mo agoThe Supreme Intelligence has entered the chat... My brain has been stuck on that same thought for decades - wouldn't it be great to have a wholly objective, impartial, and independent governing mechanism to limit the influence of power hungry monkeys and their lackeys. A fantastic low to the ground example of the fundamental problems with human politics is seen in American HOA structures and proliferation. It's utterly amazing to me how insanely corrupt a bog standard HOA can get months into it's inception simply do to base human behavior. I'll remain bearish on this as well. "Democracy" and collective government has been our species best attempt at this and well...
- gigatree 2mo agoBet we’re less than 5 years from that tbh
- reactordev 2mo agoMake no mistake, America was founded on greed. Our cries for Democracy and Liberty were only so we wouldn't have to pay the King's taxes. We wanted the western native lands that the British promised to protect with hired native americans. The notion that "All men are created equal" only applied to virtuous white men. Also, France was eager to give hell to the British and the Colonies were a mere spat in the global theater once France entered chat.
- gigatree 2mo agoWow I’ve never seen someone else in the wild talk about this, it’s like a collective psychosis. Every time I hear “the founding fathers would be turning in their grave if they saw this corruption” I roll my eyes. The MO since the beginning has been propaganda and war. You must not be American?
- throwaway27448 2mo agoCan anyone tell me if it acknowledges the dialectic?
- mckelveyf 2mo agoIts got sublimes for cheap.
- NotGMan 2mo agoI didn't read the book but the problem in politics is always the silent majority. On the internet, the 5% of haters and the 5% of the biggest fans mostly comment. 90% of the people don't, the silent majority. How are you gonna model what those who don't give an opinion say? Polls? Remember the USA 2016 election where Trump won?
- mckelveyf 2mo agoBut that's always been the case. Nixon started to use the term in 1969 just as his campaign was working with top advisor to build more interactive systems to measure and predict the elections per riding. A bit theme of the book is how to appreciate the gap between a simulation and reality, something old and new.
- amelius 2mo agoLooking forward to "modeling the economy with AI agents".
- liampulles 2mo agoGreat video on the subject of applying science to business and government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf0vb4yiZR4&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf0vb4yiZR4&t=2s