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If you don’t give them a license to display the works you give them to display, how can they legally display it?
by thelibrarian 2mo ago
If you don’t give them a license to display the works you give them to display, how can they legally display it?
- dminik 2mo agoPerpetual and irrevocable? And with the right to modify, not just display? You do not need all that.
- szszrk 2mo agoand "(with the right to sublicense)" If my company presented such user agreement I would be quickly reported by users to local Office of Competition and Consumer Protection, audited, fined, and ordered to change that. I think this would be even challenged at the level of "Abusive clauses registry" that office maintains, so the agreement would be quickly overruled in court. If no specific clause would be challenged, this is an example of "grossly violates the consumer's interests" rule. How is big tech allowed to push this shit anywhere? How is this legal in civilized world?
- gpt5 2mo agoPerhaps the same way that Github works when you host your web page there. I.e. A revocable, limited license, where you retain full ownership, and only grant them permission to host and serve your content + a limited set of other uses, and you dictate external licensing?
- iamleppert 2mo agoHere, drop all your data into this vortex -- we need it for our next web site builder AI model.
- lschueller 2mo agoYes, but this is the perfect circle of slop: generate an ai landing page, throw it into cloudflare drop, ai adopts it, start all over again. For genuine, professional content, I would assume, almost no one uses cloudflare drop, as they already have something in place to test and quickly host some page. Moreover, I expect that scammers and phishing campaigns will have a use for it to quickly up some landing page without leaving a large footprint.
- 0x457 2mo agoIt's not like every SaaS wasn't using the same style of landing page before AI.
- tritiy 2mo agoIt states more than just display: 'to use, incorporate, exploit, display, perform, reproduce, distribute, and prepare derivative works'
- PurpleRamen 2mo agoCan this be a necessary legal framing for technical purposes, to allow converting of pictures to different resolutions, or adapt the content to mobile views, and such things?
- ak39 2mo agoUnlikely. It goes further by also using the word "exploit". If they needed permissions for conversion, they'd have made a specific mention of that and thereafter confirmed legal ownership.
- dspillett 2mo agoTBH, I like that the word “exploit” is in there. It feels more honest and if it were not present!
- another-dave 2mo agoI mean, even all else aside - why would they need a "perpetual, irrevocable" licence?
- tremon 2mo agoTo me this looks like legal preparation for selling their users' datasets for AI training purposes.
- jeffparsons 2mo agoBasically the same phrasing was widespread before LLMs were invented. So I don't think it's specifically motivated by that.
- simonjgreen 2mo agoPerpetual and irrevocable? Derivative works?
- flyingshelf 2mo agoDerivative could just be "let CF append your Google Analytics tag and that funny cursor-follower script. Perpetual is way harder to justify though.
- dspillett 2mo agoDerivative works I understand. That would include transforming the content for some/all viewers. Making it mobile-friendly or otherwise reformatting for display, for instance, or adding affordances for accessibility, or for long content adding a generated summary. Irrevocable and right-to-sublicense are the red flags for me. Nothing a company sells to us is irrevocable, but everything they take from us is expected to be.
- yread 2mo agoWith the right to sublicense. They can literally sell your stuff