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Game seems to be heavily weighted towards building side projects. If only you could build a single side project without raising any funds and get acquired for 1

by xmprt 2mo ago

Game seems to be heavily weighted towards building side projects. If only you could build a single side project without raising any funds and get acquired for 10M with an 80% cut...

abeyk 2mo ago
this is possible now with AI
- jeremyjh 2mo ago
  In all seriousness, where are these stories? There are so many "entrepreneurs" vibing away, but who is getting paid? I feel like there should have been some decent exits by now but all I've found are a few lifestyle businesses and a lot of hucksters. My experience: I feel like I could build a real product solo much more quickly than ever before, but the reality is my side-projects have been mostly futzing around with coding agents and related infrastructure - like building my own command proxy system with LLM review/classification & deterministic approval policy - for sandboxed agents to manage cloud infrastructure in controlled ways - building the builder who never builds. I see a lot of that kind of stuff on Twitter too.
  - apsurd 2mo ago
    from a business standpoint, PMF was never about the underlying software. It’s a developer’s wet dream to toil away in a garage toward some Technical ideal, and then have the world applaud their genius and shower them with money. Now to be fair, there are windows of time where that really did happen for some few. As a craftsman developer, I have the same wet dream. The problem is I know it’s just a dream now that I’m older. So what AI has done is condense the frame in which a developer can spend years toiling away in the belief that they just need to keep going. Now the feedback loop is more instantly connected to reality and the reality is most all this stuff nobody wants or needs. starting a business now is ironically about all the business bits and that’s just rather annoying for builders like the HN crowd, myself included. This is more cathartic than anything. What do I know about entrepreneurial success?
    - OhSoHumble 2mo ago
      Something that I was hoping was that LLMs would make software development easy enough so that I could upskill in areas that determine entrepreneurial success. But I find that the quality of code from LLMs is low enough that I have to spend a lot of time doing QA (or manual coding). But also you could write the god damn best software out there but if you can't convince people to open the web page or download the app then it goes nowhere. Absolutely nowhere.
  - Steppphennn 2mo ago
    Because code was never the bottleneck.
georgeecollins 2mo ago
Really? I did great just alternating between "grind" and "lay low". Retired with $4.8m at 25!
- preommr 2mo ago
  This seemed to work best. Unexpected given what I know second-hand about the valley - which is to grind leetcode and keep job hopping.
  - Exoristos 2mo ago
    One of the rarely discussed life skills is going against the flow.
    - apsurd 2mo ago
      it cannot be discussed or else it becomes the flow.
    - jambalaya8 2mo ago
      This works only until other people also feel that is the thing to do.
      - hx8 2mo ago
        Many strategies have an early adopter advantage.
        jambalaya8 2mo ago
        Sure. And some also have an early adopter disadvantage.
  - korrectional 2mo ago
    doesnt that mean your resume will be full of short jobs and you wont get hired anymore
- 2mo ago
JimsonYang 2mo ago
Well thats your problem, everyone knows you got to apply to YC to get funded /s
make3 2mo ago
Yes, I really don't think that such a high fraction of people get purchased for fucking 15M after one year lol

by xmprt 2mo ago

Game seems to be heavily weighted towards building side projects. If only you could build a single side project without raising any funds and get acquired for 10M with an 80% cut...

abeyk 2mo ago

this is possible now with AI

jeremyjh 2mo ago
In all seriousness, where are these stories? There are so many "entrepreneurs" vibing away, but who is getting paid? I feel like there should have been some decent exits by now but all I've found are a few lifestyle businesses and a lot of hucksters. My experience: I feel like I could build a real product solo much more quickly than ever before, but the reality is my side-projects have been mostly futzing around with coding agents and related infrastructure - like building my own command proxy system with LLM review/classification & deterministic approval policy - for sandboxed agents to manage cloud infrastructure in controlled ways - building the builder who never builds. I see a lot of that kind of stuff on Twitter too.
- apsurd 2mo ago
  from a business standpoint, PMF was never about the underlying software. It’s a developer’s wet dream to toil away in a garage toward some Technical ideal, and then have the world applaud their genius and shower them with money. Now to be fair, there are windows of time where that really did happen for some few. As a craftsman developer, I have the same wet dream. The problem is I know it’s just a dream now that I’m older. So what AI has done is condense the frame in which a developer can spend years toiling away in the belief that they just need to keep going. Now the feedback loop is more instantly connected to reality and the reality is most all this stuff nobody wants or needs. starting a business now is ironically about all the business bits and that’s just rather annoying for builders like the HN crowd, myself included. This is more cathartic than anything. What do I know about entrepreneurial success?
  - OhSoHumble 2mo ago
    Something that I was hoping was that LLMs would make software development easy enough so that I could upskill in areas that determine entrepreneurial success. But I find that the quality of code from LLMs is low enough that I have to spend a lot of time doing QA (or manual coding). But also you could write the god damn best software out there but if you can't convince people to open the web page or download the app then it goes nowhere. Absolutely nowhere.
- Steppphennn 2mo ago
  Because code was never the bottleneck.

georgeecollins 2mo ago

Really? I did great just alternating between "grind" and "lay low". Retired with $4.8m at 25!

preommr 2mo ago
This seemed to work best. Unexpected given what I know second-hand about the valley - which is to grind leetcode and keep job hopping.
- Exoristos 2mo ago
  One of the rarely discussed life skills is going against the flow.
  - apsurd 2mo ago
    it cannot be discussed or else it becomes the flow.
  - jambalaya8 2mo ago
    This works only until other people also feel that is the thing to do.
    - hx8 2mo ago
      Many strategies have an early adopter advantage.
      - jambalaya8 2mo ago
        Sure. And some also have an early adopter disadvantage.
- korrectional 2mo ago
  doesnt that mean your resume will be full of short jobs and you wont get hired anymore
2mo ago

JimsonYang 2mo ago

Well thats your problem, everyone knows you got to apply to YC to get funded /s

make3 2mo ago

Yes, I really don't think that such a high fraction of people get purchased for fucking 15M after one year lol