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Please oh please try to make Kärcher adopt your stuff. Even their latest premium cleaning bots are hopeless when they don't know where they are, even when I tel

by vga1 2mo ago

Please oh please try to make Kärcher adopt your stuff. Even their latest premium cleaning bots are hopeless when they don't know where they are, even when I tell them where they are. Or, I don't know, make your own vacuums.

dylan604 2mo ago
I have no hope for this working. I recently bought a dumb meatbag operated vacuum after tiring of the robot's issues. The constant getting stuck in places drove me crazy. After getting a new vac, I used it in a place where the robot had just "cleaned" that morning. According to the new collector's contents, the robot sucked at its job of sucking.
- vga1 2mo ago
  The sad part is that my previous robot (iRobot model from 3 years ago) was better at this.
  - dylan604 2mo ago
    Mine worked pretty well as well and slightly improved after an update, but has gotten dumber over the years. Not only does it get lost, but it physically gets stuck under things that it did not used to get stuck under.
idiotsecant 2mo ago
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- bee_rider 2mo ago
  This is Mistral though. I assume the model can be run locally.
  - idiotsecant 2mo ago
    So the vacuum cleaner manufacturer would just require customers to install mistral on their local LLM hostbox? Or maybe they'd sell you a host to go with it you couldn't get into and honest cross fingers we aren't peeking!
    - bee_rider 2mo ago
      It is an 8B model… so, I guess it probably couldn’t run directly on most existing vacuum robots, but it could be reasonable this decade, right? I wish we lived in the alternate universe where everybody has a home server that could run this sort of thing.
      - horacemorace 2mo ago
        Once prices settle down it doesn’t seem unreasonable that everyone who wants modern conveniences plops down $3k for a home computer. It’s still cheaper than during the “home computer revolution” 80s/90s when normies were buying these at Sears and Radio Shack.
        bee_rider 2mo ago
        It would be nice to believe that could be possible, but people mostly switched to cheap laptops as soon as they became viable. No harm in being hopeful though.
  - adrianN 2mo ago
    That would be a rather expensive robot vacuum.
    - bee_rider 2mo ago
      True. But it would probably take a couple years to get spin up a new hardware product line anyway; by then local inference will probably be cheaper, right?
- dang 2mo ago
  Can you please stop posting flamebait, unsubstantive comments, name-calling, shallow dismissals and the like? You've been doing these things repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We've already asked you this a couple times. If you'd please review the site guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow them, we'd appreciate it.
  - idiotsecant 2mo ago
    You got it hoss

by vga1 2mo ago

dylan604 2mo ago

I have no hope for this working. I recently bought a dumb meatbag operated vacuum after tiring of the robot's issues. The constant getting stuck in places drove me crazy. After getting a new vac, I used it in a place where the robot had just "cleaned" that morning. According to the new collector's contents, the robot sucked at its job of sucking.

vga1 2mo ago
The sad part is that my previous robot (iRobot model from 3 years ago) was better at this.
- dylan604 2mo ago
  Mine worked pretty well as well and slightly improved after an update, but has gotten dumber over the years. Not only does it get lost, but it physically gets stuck under things that it did not used to get stuck under.

idiotsecant 2mo ago

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bee_rider 2mo ago
This is Mistral though. I assume the model can be run locally.
- idiotsecant 2mo ago
  So the vacuum cleaner manufacturer would just require customers to install mistral on their local LLM hostbox? Or maybe they'd sell you a host to go with it you couldn't get into and honest cross fingers we aren't peeking!
  - bee_rider 2mo ago
    It is an 8B model… so, I guess it probably couldn’t run directly on most existing vacuum robots, but it could be reasonable this decade, right? I wish we lived in the alternate universe where everybody has a home server that could run this sort of thing.
    - horacemorace 2mo ago
      Once prices settle down it doesn’t seem unreasonable that everyone who wants modern conveniences plops down $3k for a home computer. It’s still cheaper than during the “home computer revolution” 80s/90s when normies were buying these at Sears and Radio Shack.
      - bee_rider 2mo ago
        It would be nice to believe that could be possible, but people mostly switched to cheap laptops as soon as they became viable. No harm in being hopeful though.
- adrianN 2mo ago
  That would be a rather expensive robot vacuum.
  - bee_rider 2mo ago
    True. But it would probably take a couple years to get spin up a new hardware product line anyway; by then local inference will probably be cheaper, right?
dang 2mo ago
Can you please stop posting flamebait, unsubstantive comments, name-calling, shallow dismissals and the like? You've been doing these things repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We've already asked you this a couple times. If you'd please review the site guidelines at https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow them, we'd appreciate it.
- idiotsecant 2mo ago
  You got it hoss