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Their founder really doesn't like black people either. Do not support Papa Johns. Plenty of other choices for shit pizza. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/busine

by tailscaler2026 2mo ago

Their founder really doesn't like black people either. Do not support Papa Johns. Plenty of other choices for shit pizza. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44803163 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44803163

galleywest200 2mo ago
Unless it is the ones in Atlanta because I believe Shaq owns those.
charcircuit 2mo ago
Your source does not back up your claim. The founder said he didn't use the slur.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2mo ago
  He doesn't. I think you misread this passage (it's the only thing that comes close): > When discussing how he would distance himself from racist groups, Mr Schnatter said that Colonel Sanders, the founder of KFC, had never faced criticism for using the N-word, Forbes reported.
  - autoexec 2mo ago
    It's worth pointing out that there's no evidence that Colonel Sanders ever did that. It's not as if he was directly quoting someone. Even if he really wanted to bitch about how unfair it is that someone else was able to be racist without being called out for it, he could have phrased that in any number of other ways. Schnatter was just spewing bullshit and threw out that slur without any reason for doing so.
    - benj111 2mo ago
      He was born in 1890. Wasn't it/ negro basically accepted terminology back then? As such, we can't really complain when people use acceptable words of the time.
      - autoexec 2mo ago
        Negro would have been the acceptable term.
- autoexec 2mo ago
  He admitted that he said it (https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-founder-apologizes-for-using-the-n-word-in-call-2018-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-founder-apologize...) and years later he said that not saying it anymore was one the goals he'd been working on (https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-ceo-2-years-remove-n-word-from-vocabulary-2021-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-ceo-2-years-remov...)
  - charcircuit 2mo ago
    The claim trying to be argued here was the he hated black people and your additional sources still do not back that up. The second article seems to instead provide evidence against that claim. In reality this event happened during peak wokenness where saying a slur no matter the context made you a bad person deserving of being cancelled.
    - sail0rm00n 2mo ago
      In which context is it okay to say the n word?
      - thx67 2mo ago
        When you are racist pos and want everyone to know.
      - Ylpertnodi 2mo ago
        [dead]
      - charcircuit 2mo ago
        Anytime it is not being used as an insult or used to degrade a person or group of people.
      - anamax 2mo ago
        The n word is a staple of activities by members of a protected class. Feel free to tell them that they're wrong.
- c22 2mo ago
  Did we read the same source? The closest thing I saw in there to anything he said was: > When discussing how he would distance himself from racist groups, Mr Schnatter said that Colonel Sanders, the founder of KFC, had never faced criticism for using the N-word, Forbes reported.
  - IAmBroom 2mo ago
    Which, for the record, has never been documented at all. Conversely, his black chauffeur insisted (post-mortem) that his former employer was always respectful, and the only time he even mentioned race was to ask what 'you people want to be called.' The conversation was pretty non-exciting: 'What people?' 'Um, colored folk.' 'We prefer to be called black.' 'Oh, okay...' End of chat. Someone seeking out the most respectful language to use - the opposite of bigotry.
autoexec 2mo ago
Even though their founder and CEO was casually throwing out the slur on a call he had with his marketing agency about the PR fallout of his previous comments complaining about NFL players exercising their right to protest police brutality during the national anthem, the official position of Papa Johns is that they condemn racism in all forms and they want to distance themselves from the endorsements and praise the restaurant has received from white supremacists both before and after the slur came to light.

galleywest200 2mo ago

Unless it is the ones in Atlanta because I believe Shaq owns those.

charcircuit 2mo ago

Your source does not back up your claim. The founder said he didn't use the slur.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2mo ago
He doesn't. I think you misread this passage (it's the only thing that comes close): > When discussing how he would distance himself from racist groups, Mr Schnatter said that Colonel Sanders, the founder of KFC, had never faced criticism for using the N-word, Forbes reported.
- autoexec 2mo ago
  It's worth pointing out that there's no evidence that Colonel Sanders ever did that. It's not as if he was directly quoting someone. Even if he really wanted to bitch about how unfair it is that someone else was able to be racist without being called out for it, he could have phrased that in any number of other ways. Schnatter was just spewing bullshit and threw out that slur without any reason for doing so.
  - benj111 2mo ago
    He was born in 1890. Wasn't it/ negro basically accepted terminology back then? As such, we can't really complain when people use acceptable words of the time.
    - autoexec 2mo ago
      Negro would have been the acceptable term.
autoexec 2mo ago
He admitted that he said it (https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-founder-apologizes-for-using-the-n-word-in-call-2018-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-founder-apologize...) and years later he said that not saying it anymore was one the goals he'd been working on (https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-ceo-2-years-remove-n-word-from-vocabulary-2021-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/papa-johns-ceo-2-years-remov...)
- charcircuit 2mo ago
  The claim trying to be argued here was the he hated black people and your additional sources still do not back that up. The second article seems to instead provide evidence against that claim. In reality this event happened during peak wokenness where saying a slur no matter the context made you a bad person deserving of being cancelled.
  - sail0rm00n 2mo ago
    In which context is it okay to say the n word?
    - thx67 2mo ago
      When you are racist pos and want everyone to know.
    - Ylpertnodi 2mo ago
      [dead]
    - charcircuit 2mo ago
      Anytime it is not being used as an insult or used to degrade a person or group of people.
    - anamax 2mo ago
      The n word is a staple of activities by members of a protected class. Feel free to tell them that they're wrong.
c22 2mo ago
Did we read the same source? The closest thing I saw in there to anything he said was: > When discussing how he would distance himself from racist groups, Mr Schnatter said that Colonel Sanders, the founder of KFC, had never faced criticism for using the N-word, Forbes reported.
- IAmBroom 2mo ago
  Which, for the record, has never been documented at all. Conversely, his black chauffeur insisted (post-mortem) that his former employer was always respectful, and the only time he even mentioned race was to ask what 'you people want to be called.' The conversation was pretty non-exciting: 'What people?' 'Um, colored folk.' 'We prefer to be called black.' 'Oh, okay...' End of chat. Someone seeking out the most respectful language to use - the opposite of bigotry.

autoexec 2mo ago

Even though their founder and CEO was casually throwing out the slur on a call he had with his marketing agency about the PR fallout of his previous comments complaining about NFL players exercising their right to protest police brutality during the national anthem, the official position of Papa Johns is that they condemn racism in all forms and they want to distance themselves from the endorsements and praise the restaurant has received from white supremacists both before and after the slur came to light.