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> Open Printer is distributed under the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license. So not open source.

einpoklum 3mo ago
The license doesn't apply to the things you print with it. Are you miffed by the restriction on you selling derivative open printers?
- cwillu 3mo ago
  Yes, because that's the thing that makes it open and able to survive the death or corruption of the entity holding the copyright.
  - culi 3mo ago
    The blueprint will be open source and you could technically build it yourself if you have the patience. They are quite proud of how few parts are actually involved in it
    - cwillu 2mo ago
      If it's CC-NC, it's not open source though, that's the point: a license that restricts fields of endeavor is not an open source license.
      - culi 2mo ago
        I respect that point of view. But to me, it being easily hackable and lacking the surveillance features of all other modern printers[0] is still a strong selling point and I hope for the project to succeed. [0] https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-d...
        cwillu 2mo ago
        And that's entirely fine; it can a positive thing without being open-source. An institution can be a positive thing without being democratic. A food can be delicious without being a meat.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3mo ago
  If nobody can sell me the printer or replacement parts for it after the initial vendor inevitably goes out of business, that's a problem.
  - einpoklum 2mo ago
    They actually can sell you replacement parts, they just can't do it as a commercial endeavor. You have a point though.
- mrsssnake 3mo ago
  As much as this is nice protect, and physical one so different things any, still you cannot give/sell some software/design/media and restrict who, where and how someone can use it (noncommercial, not in this country, not at that phase of moon) while calling it open source, public domain, or similar. As long as softwsre isn't going to be proprietary, it is a good idea just shouldn't misguide about being open source.
yencabulator 2mo ago
For anyone else looking for the source of that quote, it seems they edited the text slightly: https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-tools/open-printer https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-tools/open-printer > Open Source > Open Printer will use the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license for all of its files, including electronics and mechanical design files, firmware code, and the bill of materials. Calling CC-BY-NC "Open Source" is a blatant lie.
system2 3mo ago
OpenPrinter is the same as OpenAI. Nothing open about it.

The license doesn't apply to the things you print with it. Are you miffed by the restriction on you selling derivative open printers?

cwillu 3mo ago
Yes, because that's the thing that makes it open and able to survive the death or corruption of the entity holding the copyright.
- culi 3mo ago
  The blueprint will be open source and you could technically build it yourself if you have the patience. They are quite proud of how few parts are actually involved in it
  - cwillu 2mo ago
    If it's CC-NC, it's not open source though, that's the point: a license that restricts fields of endeavor is not an open source license.
    - culi 2mo ago
      I respect that point of view. But to me, it being easily hackable and lacking the surveillance features of all other modern printers[0] is still a strong selling point and I hope for the project to succeed. [0] https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-display-tracking-dots https://www.eff.org/pages/list-printers-which-do-or-do-not-d...
      - cwillu 2mo ago
        And that's entirely fine; it can a positive thing without being open-source. An institution can be a positive thing without being democratic. A food can be delicious without being a meat.
yjftsjthsd-h 3mo ago
If nobody can sell me the printer or replacement parts for it after the initial vendor inevitably goes out of business, that's a problem.
- einpoklum 2mo ago
  They actually can sell you replacement parts, they just can't do it as a commercial endeavor. You have a point though.
mrsssnake 3mo ago
As much as this is nice protect, and physical one so different things any, still you cannot give/sell some software/design/media and restrict who, where and how someone can use it (noncommercial, not in this country, not at that phase of moon) while calling it open source, public domain, or similar. As long as softwsre isn't going to be proprietary, it is a good idea just shouldn't misguide about being open source.

yencabulator 2mo ago

For anyone else looking for the source of that quote, it seems they edited the text slightly: https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-tools/open-printer https://www.crowdsupply.com/open-tools/open-printer > Open Source > Open Printer will use the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 4.0 license for all of its files, including electronics and mechanical design files, firmware code, and the bill of materials. Calling CC-BY-NC "Open Source" is a blatant lie.

system2 3mo ago

OpenPrinter is the same as OpenAI. Nothing open about it.