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if you just want to know if CO2 is too much, 300ppm precision is fine. I dont need to know the exact level, just give me a green/yellow/red LED and make it che
by nok22kon 3mo ago
if you just want to know if CO2 is too much, 300ppm precision is fine.
I dont need to know the exact level, just give me a green/yellow/red LED and make it cheap so I can have a sensor in every room
- microtonal 3mo agoNo, it's not. You generally want to ventilate an office when you reach 1000ppm, but then the IKEA will often warn you already at 700ppm. 700ppm is fine.
- nok22kon 3mo agoyou assume that the error will always be in one direction and if sometimes you ventilate a bit sooner than required, at 700, what? businesses will not put $200 meters in every room
- spockz 2mo agoPresumably there is still the need to ventilate. So the concentration can also be measured more centrally. That is how the mechanical ventilation unit in my house works. For both humidity and CO2.
- microtonal 2mo agobusinesses will not put $200 meters in every room There are good $50 Euro meters. Besides that, I am not sure if that is true, at my wife's workplace, they put high-end CO2 meters in every larger room where multiple people meet. Admittedly, this was during COVID, so a lot of organizations were using CO2 levels as a proxy for finding whether a room was properly ventilated.
- doobiedowner 2mo agoYou put one CO2 sensor in the return air duct and tie it to outside air control.
- sscaryterry 2mo ago$200 is nothing compared to the lost productivity.
- wongarsu 2mo agoHave you looked at the prices of meeting room furniture? A $200 meter is not a significant cost measured against what it costs to furnish the room in the first place. It only becomes significant is you treat it as a line item disconnected from the room it's in
- Gigachad 3mo ago"Generally" is a vibe measurement to begin with. You won't notice any difference at all between 700ppm and 1000ppm. It's once you start hitting 2000ppm you are getting noticeable brain fog.
- OutOfHere 2mo agoI disagree. I feel a very steady and progressive deterioration starting at 600 ppm. It becomes significant at 800 ppm. The studies back up the latter threshold.
- teiferer 2mo agoUnfortunately it will be hard for you to know how much of that effect is placebo. Unless you tested this with some kind of double-blind setup.
- OutOfHere 2mo agoYou're not wrong, but indoor CO2 at these sub-1000 levels is a useful proxy metric for bioeffluent VOCs which are an objectively tiring subset of total VOCs. Ventilation lowers both. This explains the observation better than nocebo theory. See https://www.aivc.org/resource/effects-carbon-dioxide-and-without-bioeffluents-humans https://www.aivc.org/resource/effects-carbon-dioxide-and-wit...
- quickthrowman 2mo agoYou would not notice a difference if you weren’t checking the CO2 ppm. You primed your brain to ‘feel’ the effects of higher CO2 by reading a study and are experiencing the nocebo effect. If it makes you feel better I don’t see a problem with it.
- OutOfHere 2mo agoIndoor CO2 is likely overrated here at these sub-1000 levels but it's a useful proxy metric for bioeffluent VOCs which are a tiring subset of total VOCs. Ventilation lowers both. This explains the observation better than nocebo theory. See https://www.aivc.org/resource/effects-carbon-dioxide-and-without-bioeffluents-humans https://www.aivc.org/resource/effects-carbon-dioxide-and-wit...
- Scroll_Swe 2mo agoBut if I open a window at 700ppm, so what?
- cassianoleal 2mo agoSuddenly there's not enough CO2 in the room and you get overly awake! Bummer! /s
- microtonal 2mo agoMaybe you live in a place where the room temperature is the same as outside. Here in winter, it means sitting in the cold.
- Scroll_Swe 2mo agoNo I live in Sweden. You can open the window for a bit to air out, should be done even in the winter :)
- andrew_lettuce 2mo agoYou generally want to ventilate almost continuously, so if a circulation fan kicks on at 700 instead of 1000 that's really not a big deal.