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>It's not a conspiracy or anti-Semitic it is if you think the reason is something that's not benign, or if you are keeping track of it and spreading it hoping
by fsckboy 3mo ago
>It's not a conspiracy or anti-Semitic
it is if you think the reason is something that's not benign, or if you are keeping track of it and spreading it hoping to foment anger.
A hugely disproportionate number of Nobel Prizes have been won by Jews (22% vs 0.2% of total population) and that's with 6 million killed in the holocaust. By Occam's razor, that's a lot of really smart people, and I prefer having smart leaders.
Do you think the President of Mexico and Ukraine are Jewish because Mossad?
Let me guess, you think all the above is because they cheated?
- newspaper1 3mo agoAre you claiming Jews are more intelligent than non-Jews?
- fsckboy 3mo ago[flagged]
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- newspaper1 3mo agoSo you do think Jews are smarter than non-Jews. I welcome your return to reality. It will be well deserved.
- hagbard_c 3mo agoHow about this: Ashkenazi Jewish culture with its emphasis on education and discipline stemming from studying religious texts leading to widespread literacy has led this group of people to outperform the mainline on intellectual tasks just like other cultures with an emphasis on education and literacy tend to outperform the mainline. You don't need genetic inheritance to explain Jewish over-performance, cultural inheritance is enough. Do mind I don't know whether there is a genetic component involved but I do know it is not needed to explain why Ashkenazi Jews outperform other cultures. Looking at national IQ averages [1] currently Hong Kong seems to score highest with an average of 107.73 while Israel is below average at 98.57, below most European countries as well as below the USA. The top 6 in the list are all east-Asian countries, the lowest are nearly all in Africa with Somalia lowest at 83.84. [1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-i...
- tptacek 3mo agoThere are no such thing as "national IQ averages".
- hagbard_c 3mo agoYes there are no matter whether you consider IQ a valid concept or not. In the context of the grandparent's remark about Ashkenazi Jews being 'smarter' it is relevant to compare specific group averages (e.g. Ashkenazi Jews) with national averages, especially in the case of Israel where there is a marked difference between the national average IQ and that for the group 'Ashkenazi Jews' (about 24% of the total Israeli population calculated from the numbers presented in [1]). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Jews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Jews
- tptacek 3mo agoNo, there aren't. Countries generally don't do latitudinal IQ surveys. Very few people reading HN have ever been asked to take an IQ test, let alone compelled to do so. Numbers attributing "IQ" to countries are generally fraudulent (i.e., Richard Lynn's "IQ And The Wealth Of Nations" numbers). I'm not making any other claim than that specific one: there is no such thing as "national IQ averages". If you claim there's some other kind of "IQ average" that isn't "national", you're addressing a point I didn't make.
- hagbard_c 3mo agoCountries don't have to do tests, that is done by people who take tests organised by institutions, The results are grouped by whatever factors the test developers consider interesting and the results are published. We can quibble about the value of these results, about the value of IQ as a concept, about the sample size of IQ-test-taking groups in different countries and much more but that is all irrelevant when considering the question whether there is something like an average IQ score grouped by country. Those scores exist and the results from several independent studies are largely the same.
- fsckboy 3mo ago64 Fields Medals have been awarded, 15 went to Jews, just over 23%. Jews are 2.5% of the US but less than 0.2% of Europe (10% of all Jews live in Europe; in 1933, it was 60%)
- grandpajoey 3mo agoThis sounds like fuel for antisemitic conspiracies because collusion != intelligence.
- fsckboy 3mo agohttps://nymag.com/nymetro/news/culture/features/1478/ https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/culture/features/1478/ "Cochran and Harpending also cite studies claiming that Ashkenazim have the highest IQ of any ethnic group for which there’s reliable data, perhaps as much as a full standard deviation above the general European average, which means, at the far end of the spectrum, that 23 per thousand Ashkenazim have an IQ over 140, as opposed to 4 per thousand Northern Europeans."
- newspaper1 3mo agoThis guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Harpending#Views_on_race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Harpending#Views_on_race
- dribbiy8 3mo ago[dead]
- thecrash 3mo agoIt's important to note that there are very many Jews in the world who are not Zionist and many Jews in Israel who disagree with the Palestinian genocide. They're not the majority, but there are still a lot of them.
- throw310822 3mo agoThey are a lot but they're a small minority overall.
- hardbass 3mo agoAdolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were both clearly highly intelligent individuals, especially Stalin I'd say given how he managed to survive and grow his power for far longer. However iq by itself doesn't mean whether the person applies it to good or bad things. It's a shame a certain part of the current crop of jews are using their iq toward absurd and evil activities.