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My Fable example is not nearly as cool but still (to me) impressive. Last year, I would occasionally test the latest models by vibe-coding in-browser music gen

by tkgally 3mo ago

My Fable example is not nearly as cool but still (to me) impressive. Last year, I would occasionally test the latest models by vibe-coding in-browser music generators using only HTML, CSS, and JS. Here’s one made in July by Gemini: https://gally.net/temp/20250701synthesizer-gemini2/index.html https://gally.net/temp/20250701synthesizer-gemini2/index.htm... And one made in September by Claude: https://gally.net/temp/20250917rhythmdrone/index.html https://gally.net/temp/20250917rhythmdrone/index.html With Fable, I was able to one-shot something much more sophisticated: https://gally.net/temp/20260610-fable-synthesizer/index.html https://gally.net/temp/20260610-fable-synthesizer/index.html It’s still a long way from creating music I would want to listen to, though.

nl 3mo ago
I love these kind of things - we forget so quickly how much these have improved.
neynt 3mo ago
These are lovely. That the Fable one is one-shot is shocking.
- tkgally 3mo ago
  Just for reference, here is the metaprompt I first gave to Opus: “I want to ask Claude Code to write a browser-based synthesizer for me. Please prepare a prompt for it that I can give to it for it to write the synthesizer. The synthesizer should automatically create interesting polyphonic music in which the various voices play off against each other in both harmony and contrast. The controls will affect the tone, rhythmic patterns, number of voices, complexity and randomness of the melodies, and other features. The controlled features should be original—not just standard synthesizer functions—and encourage creative explorations even by naive users. So write a prompt that I can give to Claude Code to create that synthesizer.” I then gave the prompt produced by Opus to Fable in Claude Code.
  - stavros 3mo ago
    You'd probably get better results giving the metaprompt to Fable. Information doesn't magically get created, running something through a dumb model to give to a smart model gets worse results than if you just give the smart model the prompt directly.
    - tkgally 3mo ago
      That occurred to me, too, when I posted that metaprompt above. But that was only the second or third prompt I gave to Fable during the couple of days I had access to it, and I used the metaprompting strategy that had worked well with earlier models. If and when I get access to Fable again, I will try giving it a similar short prompt directly. I should mention that Fable also did an impressive job on a couple of major project-redesign tasks I gave it. Those aren't things I can share here, though.
      - stavros 3mo ago
        The general way I think about it is that it's OK (and usually encouraged) to have a smarter model prompt a dumber model, but never the other way around.
    - reverius42 3mo ago
      Amazing how quickly things are moving that you can call Opus a "dumb model"!
      - stavros 3mo ago
        That is actually true and amazing to think about. It was mostly a figure of speech, but also kind of true when compared to Fable?
        reverius42 3mo ago
        So, how many months from now before we start calling Fable a "dumb model"? I give it maybe 6?

by tkgally 3mo ago

nl 3mo ago

I love these kind of things - we forget so quickly how much these have improved.

neynt 3mo ago

These are lovely. That the Fable one is one-shot is shocking.

tkgally 3mo ago
Just for reference, here is the metaprompt I first gave to Opus: “I want to ask Claude Code to write a browser-based synthesizer for me. Please prepare a prompt for it that I can give to it for it to write the synthesizer. The synthesizer should automatically create interesting polyphonic music in which the various voices play off against each other in both harmony and contrast. The controls will affect the tone, rhythmic patterns, number of voices, complexity and randomness of the melodies, and other features. The controlled features should be original—not just standard synthesizer functions—and encourage creative explorations even by naive users. So write a prompt that I can give to Claude Code to create that synthesizer.” I then gave the prompt produced by Opus to Fable in Claude Code.
- stavros 3mo ago
  You'd probably get better results giving the metaprompt to Fable. Information doesn't magically get created, running something through a dumb model to give to a smart model gets worse results than if you just give the smart model the prompt directly.
  - tkgally 3mo ago
    That occurred to me, too, when I posted that metaprompt above. But that was only the second or third prompt I gave to Fable during the couple of days I had access to it, and I used the metaprompting strategy that had worked well with earlier models. If and when I get access to Fable again, I will try giving it a similar short prompt directly. I should mention that Fable also did an impressive job on a couple of major project-redesign tasks I gave it. Those aren't things I can share here, though.
    - stavros 3mo ago
      The general way I think about it is that it's OK (and usually encouraged) to have a smarter model prompt a dumber model, but never the other way around.
  - reverius42 3mo ago
    Amazing how quickly things are moving that you can call Opus a "dumb model"!
    - stavros 3mo ago
      That is actually true and amazing to think about. It was mostly a figure of speech, but also kind of true when compared to Fable?
      - reverius42 3mo ago
        So, how many months from now before we start calling Fable a "dumb model"? I give it maybe 6?