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great news!, I would like to conversate with my dog...i'm sure he has more important thing than lots of people

ksd482 3mo ago
If one were to go about translating brain waves from dogs to meaning, we'd run into a big problem immediately: vocabulary resolution. What I mean by that is we'll have a very limited number of words to which a dog's brainwaves can be translated to since we aren't able to understand them beyond their basic instincts of food, survival, fear, affection towards their owner etc. There is just no way to go past what we have already observed by their behavior since dogs can't talk or write. I do wonder how animals think. Perhaps this resolution would also be the theoretical maximum?
- supern0va 3mo ago
  >There is just no way to go past what we have already observed by their behavior since dogs can't talk or write. There are many dogs that have been trained to press buttons corresponding to words, in the extreme case tens/hundreds of buttons/words, and they can even construct rudimentary sentences. It doesn't seem insane to me that we could perhaps do a very rudimentary version of this for dogs, given a large enough training set.
  - gloyoyo 3mo ago
    Some important ones like, "earthquake", "Seizure", etc... Might be of use.
  - yieldcrv 3mo ago
    but that's imposing our language on them, when we should be understanding them there's a movie about that default human hubris, it spoils it though
    - ksd482 3mo ago
      That's a great point. The "vocabulary resolution being low" basically just means within our own limited context, it's low. But that doesn't mean it's a good measure. Heck, I'd say it isn't.
voxelghost 3mo ago
Now, your dogs may very well be smarter than mine. But here's how I imagine a convo with my dogs would go. - Let's go see what's on the other side of this door, friend, maybe there's food !! Ok, friend, here you go. - opens door. - Wow super cool, now let's go see what's on the other side of this door, friend, maybe there's food !!
righthand 3mo ago
Does your dog want to converse with you or anyone?

If one were to go about translating brain waves from dogs to meaning, we'd run into a big problem immediately: vocabulary resolution. What I mean by that is we'll have a very limited number of words to which a dog's brainwaves can be translated to since we aren't able to understand them beyond their basic instincts of food, survival, fear, affection towards their owner etc. There is just no way to go past what we have already observed by their behavior since dogs can't talk or write. I do wonder how animals think. Perhaps this resolution would also be the theoretical maximum?

supern0va 3mo ago
>There is just no way to go past what we have already observed by their behavior since dogs can't talk or write. There are many dogs that have been trained to press buttons corresponding to words, in the extreme case tens/hundreds of buttons/words, and they can even construct rudimentary sentences. It doesn't seem insane to me that we could perhaps do a very rudimentary version of this for dogs, given a large enough training set.
- gloyoyo 3mo ago
  Some important ones like, "earthquake", "Seizure", etc... Might be of use.
- yieldcrv 3mo ago
  but that's imposing our language on them, when we should be understanding them there's a movie about that default human hubris, it spoils it though
  - ksd482 3mo ago
    That's a great point. The "vocabulary resolution being low" basically just means within our own limited context, it's low. But that doesn't mean it's a good measure. Heck, I'd say it isn't.

voxelghost 3mo ago

Now, your dogs may very well be smarter than mine. But here's how I imagine a convo with my dogs would go. - Let's go see what's on the other side of this door, friend, maybe there's food !! Ok, friend, here you go. - opens door. - Wow super cool, now let's go see what's on the other side of this door, friend, maybe there's food !!

righthand 3mo ago

Does your dog want to converse with you or anyone?