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To be fair, Örebropartiet can also be called an extreme left party. It’s complicated… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/
by stefanfisk 3mo ago
To be fair, Örebropartiet can also be called an extreme left party. It’s complicated…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96rebro_Party
- hootz 3mo agoI don't see how, given their answers to simple questions as described in the "2026 run up to the elections" section, this party could ever be considered a leftist party.
- wongarsu 3mo agoThey are very pro education. But that's basically the only thing, all the other answers are enthusiastic right wing answers
- deleted 3mo ago[deleted]
- jarek83 3mo agoHow populist party can root for education? Educated people wouldn't go in populist direction. Of course, it the education stays unbent to their views
- wongarsu 3mo agoThey are far too small to have any chance of influencing education. The simpler explanation would be that there is a strong nationalist current. Think "our people are the best, let's make them even better and throw out the others"
- drptech 3mo ago[dead]
- shimman 3mo agoWhy wouldn't educated people be swept up by populism? They're human like the rest of us. Maybe you should stop thinking that having an education makes you a moral person, it just means you have an education.
- jarek83 3mo agoI just assume that once people start seeing how the dots connect in some areas, they will be able to quickly see that the populists' dots are all over the place. I believe the educated populist are only the ones that try to drive move, not participate in one.
- mrguyorama 3mo agoBecause populists can say they are "For" something and just not do it. Their supporters largely won't check the results. Same reason why US republicans say they are the party of fiscal responsibility despite being directly responsible for most of the debt of the US
- ignoramous 3mo ago> Educated people wouldn't go in populist direction. Depends on "education".
- dtj1123 3mo agoMaybe the issue is that mapping political ideologies onto a 1-D line doesn't work if you have more than two distinct ideologies.
- hootz 3mo agoNah, it works, it's just a higher level of political abstraction, but we still tend to use left and right because those words seem to be accurate enough to be worthwhile. We could use something like the political compass, but on that model we still tend to ignore the authoritarianism axis and just say everything to the left is the left and everything to the right is the right. Left is progressive, right is conservative.
- dtj1123 3mo agoI'm not sure you understand what abstraction means.
- dominojab 3mo ago[dead]
- catheter 3mo agoIt doesn't seem that complicated to be honest with you. That is how they self identify but none of their policies seem particularly left wing. At least not from that Wikipedia page. Extremely left wing dental care is the best I will give them.
- flohofwoe 3mo ago> Extremely left wing dental care is the best I will give them. Free dental care is considered "extemely left wing" now? That's just bizarre tbh. If a country would decide to use tax money to provide health care services for free to everybody that's not much different than using tax money to maintain an infrastructure network that's free to use (like roads), or free police and firefighting services - and I think none of those examples are considered particularly 'left-wing'.
- catheter 3mo agoI was being facetious. Unfortunately enlightened horseshoe centrists didn't want to hear.
- microgpt 3mo agoThey're all left-wing
- bluescrn 3mo ago> Free dental care is considered "extemely left wing" now? That's just bizarre tbh. No more bizarre than the idea of free speech being ceded to the right. Apparently even air conditioning is now a left vs right culture war issue...
- flohofwoe 3mo agoSounds like the logical evolution of left/right-populism into 'absolutist-populism' ;)
- mrtksn 3mo agoThat's typical for extremist parties, AKA Horseshoe theory. IRL Erdogan's party went so far to the right that they started actually adopting very socialist/communist policies. The party names is AKP which stands for "justice and development party" but many people are calling it "Allahs Communist Party" since in Turkish communist is written with K and they are islamists doing communist stuff.
- Sammi 3mo agoHorseshoe Theory strikes again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
- microgpt 3mo ago[flagged]
- 10xDev 3mo agoThis is a bot. It has been commenting all day every day. Why has it still not been removed?
- ffsm8 3mo agoYou got that reversed. The nazis (national socialists) were running on full on the extreme left talking points, right down to socializing several industries, providing everyone a job (via state) etc pp. After they got to power they ultimately abolished the democracy - that cannot be called either left or right leaning, because neither side would want that... And what they did up to that was actually very close to what they ran on. They did give everyone a job. State sponsored. Etc. From a objective perspective, they were left. At least until the Kristallnacht. The left just successfully rebranded them to right over the next decades, because they could and it was expedient for their bottomline. I think it's worth pointing out that - if things were reversed - the political right would've done the same. Realistically speaking, the Nazi were neither "left leaning" nor "right leaning" They were just populists which told the population what they wanted to hear, which was left leaning propaganda - and delivered enough of that to establish itself successfully. But the dismantling of the democracy is proof that they were outside of the political spectrum. They were dictators, neither left nor right.
- belorn 3mo agoTo add to the context. The founder of the was the chairman for the youth organization of Vänsterpartiet (English name: The left party), the furthest left party in the Swedish parliament, and he recruited members primarily from the same organization when he was kicked out. The reason he got kicked out was that he was seen praising the Revolutionary Front, a far-left extremist political and militant network in Sweden. It should be added that the area where they are active is in the local government of Örebro Municipality, a place with a total population of 160,143 people. Looking at the political leanings of parties for a small local government with the lens of national parties might not give a very clear picture. Their strategy is also directed toward local voters, not national voters, through a strategy called the 12% line.
- KaiserPro 3mo agoDoes it matter if they are left or right? The point is, they want to round up lawful citizens and turf them out of the country because they have the audacity to be slightly foreign, or worse born to someone foreign. that is the issue, not how much tax/spend big/little government.
- epistasis 3mo agoExactly, the problem is not left/right it's the authoritarianism, which is again a huge threat to the world after being held mostly in check in Western democracies for many years. People tend to forget about the "Last Man" part of Fukuyama's "The End of History and the Last Man", but we are definitely in the phase of the Last Man seeking conflict and fighting against our hard-won freedoms.
- throwawaypath 3mo ago>The point is, they want to round up lawful citizens and turf them out of the country The US isn't the only country in the world. Sweden does not have birthright citizenship. Many (most?) of those to be remigrated are not Swedish citizens.
- KaiserPro 3mo ago> Many (most?) of those to be remigrated are not Swedish citizens. You say tomAtoe, I say pogrom, lets call the whole thing off In europe, when was the last time a mass ejection of normal people, who've not committed crimes, beneficial? When did it end well for either the ejectee, or the remaining domestic population?
- throwawaypath 2mo ago>You say tomAtoe, I say pogrom, lets call the whole thing off You say pogrAm, I say deporting illegal criminals, lets call the whole thing off and remigrate them. >In europe, when was the last time a mass ejection of normal people, who've not committed crimes, beneficial? These are not "normal people", they are not citizens, nor indigenous to Europe. >When did it end well for either the ejectee, or the remaining domestic population? Reconquista is one example of many.