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Fairly certain all those have "acts of congress" attached to them. I mean, it used to take a constitutional amendment to make something illegal but now we have

Fairly certain all those have "acts of congress" attached to them. I mean, it used to take a constitutional amendment to make something illegal but now we have tons of agencies responsible for regulating all the things. Plus, they're relying on the "math is a weapon" law to ban "export" of the models.

delichon 3mo ago
Congress passed the Arms Export Control Act (22 USC 2778) in the Ford administration and it has been applied to software since at least the Clinton administration.
- conartist6 3mo ago
  isn't this materially different in that it creates a kind of class system within the US?
  - micromacrofoot 3mo ago
    the continued exploits of the same kind of class system the US has always had
  - varenc 3mo ago
    how so? Is it a class system that only Raytheon employees can work on cruise missiles, not the average citizen? (edit: not that these models are equivalent to missiles oc)
    - sgc 3mo ago
      Cruise missiles are not general purpose tools, it's obviously not even remotely similar. Virtually everybody reading this could use Mythos immediately to do real work, collectively in virtually every part of the economy. It's pretty problematic to not make it more widely available at least to US businesses, and there is not even a vetting process to get approved quickly and easily. If this is the new norm, the intended or unintended consequences of this type of gatekeeping will be an unprecedented consolidation of power amongst the largest corporations. Even more than we have seen over the last 20 years.
    - conartist6 3mo ago
      I would say this is a fairly equivalent dynamic in action, but it was concentrated to the defense industry. This suggests a future in which every company in the tech industry has "clearance required" or "citizens only" roles for the people who need to be able to use the find-security-problems-bot...
skywhopper 3mo ago
It has never taken a constitutional amendment to make something illegal.
- onionisafruit 3mo ago
  slavery required the 13th amendment
- alpinisme 3mo ago
  Prohibition was the 18th amendment

delichon 3mo ago

Congress passed the Arms Export Control Act (22 USC 2778) in the Ford administration and it has been applied to software since at least the Clinton administration.

conartist6 3mo ago
isn't this materially different in that it creates a kind of class system within the US?
- micromacrofoot 3mo ago
  the continued exploits of the same kind of class system the US has always had
- varenc 3mo ago
  how so? Is it a class system that only Raytheon employees can work on cruise missiles, not the average citizen? (edit: not that these models are equivalent to missiles oc)
  - sgc 3mo ago
    Cruise missiles are not general purpose tools, it's obviously not even remotely similar. Virtually everybody reading this could use Mythos immediately to do real work, collectively in virtually every part of the economy. It's pretty problematic to not make it more widely available at least to US businesses, and there is not even a vetting process to get approved quickly and easily. If this is the new norm, the intended or unintended consequences of this type of gatekeeping will be an unprecedented consolidation of power amongst the largest corporations. Even more than we have seen over the last 20 years.
  - conartist6 3mo ago
    I would say this is a fairly equivalent dynamic in action, but it was concentrated to the defense industry. This suggests a future in which every company in the tech industry has "clearance required" or "citizens only" roles for the people who need to be able to use the find-security-problems-bot...

skywhopper 3mo ago

It has never taken a constitutional amendment to make something illegal.

onionisafruit 3mo ago
slavery required the 13th amendment
alpinisme 3mo ago
Prohibition was the 18th amendment