> when the effects of climate change are undeniable I understand your meaning, but kind of a tragically funny statement given that really that's just... now.

> when the effects of climate change are undeniable I understand your meaning, but kind of a tragically funny statement given that really that's just... now. So, it'll just be a continuation of the same insane talking points as today - "Weather has always changed" or "There have always been hurricanes/droughts/floods" while ignoring or denying or not understanding increasing frequency or intensity. Also a lot of nonsense that because someone somewhere was still polluting (china, billionaires, whoever) that there was no benefit in decreasing pollution where we could, as if the problem was a binary where the only options were "zero pollution" and "unlimited pollution".