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> mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process, Yes, just like early cars allowed mediocre horse riders to get from

> mythos allowed mediocre people to get results by holding their hand through the process, Yes, just like early cars allowed mediocre horse riders to get from A to B with dignity. Or like my Japanese rice cooker allows a person like me, utterly shitty at preparing this, to eat some rice that is cooked to perfection. Etc.

greggsy 3mo ago
I mean, the calculator is my go to analogy I keep bringing up in this debate. It lets someone with mediocre long division skills to just do the thing they need to do with fewer steps and less friction. IDA itself is a tool that helps you decompile code without having to do a lot of things.
- teravor 3mo ago
  knowing long division does not help you make the calculator do division better.
  - dlmanning 3mo ago
    Understanding math absolutely makes a calculator more useful to you though.
    - teravor 3mo ago
      and if you work that into the parent's analogy you get the point I was making
      - dlmanning 3mo ago
        Apologies. I misread the comment to which you replied and gave them unwarranted credit for not making the same tired point about calculators.
ai_fry_ur_brain 3mo ago
Should mediocre people be preforming heart surgery?
- p-e-w 3mo ago
  Lots of mediocre people already are.
- garyfirestorm 3mo ago
  It depends. Mediocre doctor in a remote area with right tooling assistance as opposed to no one being available for someone who urgently needs one? Yeah this should be a thing. Should a software bro in NY perform it in dark alley despite having best doctors few blocks away? Maybe not…
- sieabahlpark 3mo ago
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- gaiagraphia 3mo ago
  I'm sure many 'mediocre' people perform heart surgery. Only 100 years ago, the idea of a person without a certain surname or race, would've been a ghastly preposition, no?
  - dlmanning 3mo ago
    Do you... think heart surgery has become LESS dependent on surgical skill in the last 100 years? Cardiovascular surgeons spend MORE time in training now than they did 100 years ago.
    - gaiagraphia 3mo ago
      Did heart surgery as we know it exist 100 years ago, or are you trying to conflate things to make a point? "heart surgery" isn't a technique". Name something, literally anything connected to the profession, and tell me whether the training time is naturally bound to keep going up and up.

greggsy 3mo ago

I mean, the calculator is my go to analogy I keep bringing up in this debate. It lets someone with mediocre long division skills to just do the thing they need to do with fewer steps and less friction. IDA itself is a tool that helps you decompile code without having to do a lot of things.

teravor 3mo ago
knowing long division does not help you make the calculator do division better.
- dlmanning 3mo ago
  Understanding math absolutely makes a calculator more useful to you though.
  - teravor 3mo ago
    and if you work that into the parent's analogy you get the point I was making
    - dlmanning 3mo ago
      Apologies. I misread the comment to which you replied and gave them unwarranted credit for not making the same tired point about calculators.

ai_fry_ur_brain 3mo ago

Should mediocre people be preforming heart surgery?

p-e-w 3mo ago
Lots of mediocre people already are.
garyfirestorm 3mo ago
It depends. Mediocre doctor in a remote area with right tooling assistance as opposed to no one being available for someone who urgently needs one? Yeah this should be a thing. Should a software bro in NY perform it in dark alley despite having best doctors few blocks away? Maybe not…
sieabahlpark 3mo ago
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gaiagraphia 3mo ago
I'm sure many 'mediocre' people perform heart surgery. Only 100 years ago, the idea of a person without a certain surname or race, would've been a ghastly preposition, no?
- dlmanning 3mo ago
  Do you... think heart surgery has become LESS dependent on surgical skill in the last 100 years? Cardiovascular surgeons spend MORE time in training now than they did 100 years ago.
  - gaiagraphia 3mo ago
    Did heart surgery as we know it exist 100 years ago, or are you trying to conflate things to make a point? "heart surgery" isn't a technique". Name something, literally anything connected to the profession, and tell me whether the training time is naturally bound to keep going up and up.