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Why you say that? Nuvia made a massively great success with Oryon CPUs which are now all over the place.

• re-thc 3mo ago
  > Nuvia made a massively great success Not true. Nuvia has had huge delays as part of the acquisition. It resulted in ARM licensing lawsuits and many more and things dragged out.
  • refulgentis 3mo ago
    Yes, ARM sued Qualcomm, Qualcomm won, and separately Nuvia has shipped, 2, 3? times now? I don't know how it's a failure or if the delay were "huge" and "dragged out". It's not like it launched an old product or took years and years and years. 39 months between acquisition and Snapdragon X Elite being available for purchase.
    • re-thc 3mo ago
      > 39 months between acquisition and Snapdragon X Elite being available for purchase. Yes a world of a difference. That’s competing against an Apple M2 vs M4. You’ve given yourself 2 generations of disadvantage. You’re equivalent of saying the Intel delays were a success too.
      • refulgentis 3mo ago
        > You’re equivalent of saying the Intel delays were a success too. If Trump nuked TSMC's production lines the day before M1 went to production, and the production lines came back 3 years later, would Apple ship the M1 on it? Or, the M3? As you point out, it makes 0 sense to ship the M1. If it makes 0 sense, why project that idea onto me? When faced with a contradiction, first, check your premises. (and read your interlocutor's, "It's not like it launched an old product" obviates your claim that I'd also applaud Intel's delays)
        • re-thc 3mo ago
          > As you point out, it makes 0 sense to ship the M1. But that's what happened. Go check the benchmarks. Clearly you haven't. That Snapdragon X that got released (1st gen) was way off the mark. > When faced with a contradiction When faced with a hallucination...
          • refulgentis 3mo ago
            You switched your claim from "they released the same chip they would have released 3 years earlier and you're stupid for thinking that was a good idea" to "I thought it was slow [because I'm hyperfocused on Apple competition and forgot the perf vs. Intel/AMD]".
            • re-thc 3mo ago
              Nothing got switched. Go check the facts. The chip was made. It was delayed due to the lawsuits and drama. The first release was an old chip. Hence slow. All the same. You can slice it how you like. AMD barely has laptop designs (the point here) and Intel is long dead in this space.
• sipjca 3mo ago
  Hasn't pretty much everyone from Nuvia left QC at this point?
  • Danox 3mo ago
    Yes, the principal designer engineer Williams just left. He made an announcement a month or two ago?