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The main problem is providing infrastructure for a government that can over use it in future if move to ultra right/left/authoritarian spectrum Just for exampl

by tom910 3mo ago

The main problem is providing infrastructure for a government that can over use it in future if move to ultra right/left/authoritarian spectrum Just for example Russia build infrastructure for blocks website for child safety, but it started to used much further

rootusrootus 3mo ago
> The main problem is providing infrastructure for a government that can over use it in future if move to ultra right/left/authoritarian spectrum The US is an instructive example in real time. Roughly everyone worries about what happens when their opponent gains control of the government and then promptly forgets how much they worried when their side has it.
palata 3mo ago
> The main problem is providing infrastructure for a government that can over use it in future if move to ultra right/left/authoritarian spectrum If that was considered the real problem, we would be fighting against surveillance capitalism. Instead we cheer for LLM companies who made it an order of magnitude worse. Let's be honest, the only time we care about being tracked is to access porn, for some reason. And if we're being honest, we are already tracked when doing it.
- pseudalopex 3mo ago
  > If that was considered the real problem, we would be fighting against surveillance capitalism. You don't? > Instead we cheer for LLM companies who made it an order of magnitude worse. You do? > Let's be honest, the only time we care about being tracked is to access porn, for some reason. You do? > And if we're being honest, we are already tracked when doing it. You are?
- tom910 3mo ago
  Even some bad aspects/issues doesn't justice that we need to support even worse cases Also want to mark that `surveillance capitalism` companies can not be comparable with totaletar countries which want to control people. This is orders of magnitude worse
  - palata 3mo ago
    Is it? All the biggest tech companies, now including LLM companies, are US companies. This effectively means that the US government has access to them and it has been known for a long time now. Is that orders of magnitude better than age verification in a less powerful country?

by tom910 3mo ago

rootusrootus 3mo ago

> The main problem is providing infrastructure for a government that can over use it in future if move to ultra right/left/authoritarian spectrum The US is an instructive example in real time. Roughly everyone worries about what happens when their opponent gains control of the government and then promptly forgets how much they worried when their side has it.

palata 3mo ago

> The main problem is providing infrastructure for a government that can over use it in future if move to ultra right/left/authoritarian spectrum If that was considered the real problem, we would be fighting against surveillance capitalism. Instead we cheer for LLM companies who made it an order of magnitude worse. Let's be honest, the only time we care about being tracked is to access porn, for some reason. And if we're being honest, we are already tracked when doing it.

pseudalopex 3mo ago
> If that was considered the real problem, we would be fighting against surveillance capitalism. You don't? > Instead we cheer for LLM companies who made it an order of magnitude worse. You do? > Let's be honest, the only time we care about being tracked is to access porn, for some reason. You do? > And if we're being honest, we are already tracked when doing it. You are?
tom910 3mo ago
Even some bad aspects/issues doesn't justice that we need to support even worse cases Also want to mark that `surveillance capitalism` companies can not be comparable with totaletar countries which want to control people. This is orders of magnitude worse
- palata 3mo ago
  Is it? All the biggest tech companies, now including LLM companies, are US companies. This effectively means that the US government has access to them and it has been known for a long time now. Is that orders of magnitude better than age verification in a less powerful country?