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"The International Court of Justice (ICJ; French: Cour internationale de justice, CIJ), or colloquially the World Court, is the principal judicial organ of the

"The International Court of Justice (ICJ; French: Cour internationale de justice, CIJ), or colloquially the World Court, is the principal judicial organ of the United Nations (UN)" "The Court is composed of a panel of 15 judges elected by the UN General Assembly and Security Council for nine-year terms" Literally, from the first few paragraphs of wikipedia. People don't read these days. If the UN general assembly (mostly anti israel) selects the judges how is it "structurally independent of the UN"?

throwaway9917 3mo ago
I've often heard defenders of Israel crap on the UN General Assembly like it's some woke antifa type organization, but it's one representative per country, chosen by the country's government. If almost every country in the world is constantly officially condemning you, perhaps they are not the problem.
- throw358643 3mo ago
  It’s disingenuous to pretend that the Middle East conflict does not align people according to tribal, religious, and political groupings, as well as international alliances. Given that Jews are 0.2% of the world’s population, in contrast to a very large population of people openly biased against Israel, it’s no surprise that when you take a global popular vote that Jews will lose. The UN is not a neutral institution.
  - throwaway9917 3mo ago
    Sure I understand how Arab or Muslim countries might vote against Israel reflexively, but it's not just them, it's almost the entire world. Go look at this list of Israel related General Assembly resolutions in 2025: https://unwatch.org/2025-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-of-the-world/ https://unwatch.org/2025-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-... The typical vote is like 142-6. The Israeli claim is that almost the entire world are a bunch of anti-Semites that hate them for who they are. Perhaps it's not who they are but what they are doing.
    - throw358643 3mo ago
      From your link: “From 2015 through 2024, the UN General Assembly has adopted 173 resolutions against Israel and 80 against other countries.” Do you seriously think that throughout this time Israel has been that much worse than all other countries? There are many other indications that the UN is biased about Israel: Only one country has its own permanent agenda Item 7 in the UN. Palestinian refugees have their own organization vs refugees from all over the world, with almost 10x the budget per person. In the UNESCO description of Jerusalem it says “The Wailing Wall delimits the quarters of the different religious communities”. There are many other examples like this. Not a single country in the world opened its doors to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. So the majority of the world can absolutely be wrong.
      - pvaldes 3mo ago
        > Not a single country in the world opened its doors to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. Not one except USA. And Sweden, Dominican Republic, Denmark, France, Luxembourg, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Poland, Bolivia, Spain, the Soviets and all the other countries that allowed safe crossing. Even Italy hid Jews... so what history books do you studied?.
        n4r9 3mo ago
        And the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_refugees_from_German-occupied_Europe_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_refugees_from_German-oc...
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    - Protostome 3mo ago
- Protostome 3mo ago
  Well, given that between 2015 and 2024 alone, the General Assembly adopted 154 resolutions against Israel. That's more than Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Russia, China *combined*, I find it a bit ... unfair, wouldn't you say?
  - Schmerika 3mo ago
    More than 14,500 children were killed by Israel in that period. 14,500 / 154 = more than 94 children per resolution. Seems fair. How many children did "Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Russia, China combined" kill in this period, I hear you whatabout: Highest reasonable estimates are ~5,000–10,000 children. ... So, no. I don't think it's unfair. Now let's compare how many sanctions have been inflicted on each country above. If you measure by number of sanctioned individuals/entities, a rough ranking would be: 1: Russia. 2: Iran. 3: North Korea. 4: Sudan. 5: China. 6: Israel. ... So if you're trying to hint that the whole world is only against genocide because they're antisemitic, the facts you're referring to don't really seem to back you up. At all.
    - Protostome 3mo ago
      Again, children got killed because their school was used as a ground base to fire rockets from. Do you expect Israelis to allow Hamas rockets to fall in Israeli schools? That's not a reasonable expectation. The choice hamas forces israel to make is cruel and inhuman, that is direct consequence of their radical islamic belief of martirdom. They do not see death like the same way as the west. To them (and I'm not talking about all palestinians, for sure, only Hamas senior leadership which governs Gaza) dead children is a weapon against Israel. In light of this, all their actions finally make sense: 1. No civil defenses, or shelters - just tunnels. 2. Firing from schools and hospitals, as well as hiding weapons and ammo in those places. 3. Arming and sending children to fight That's the most reasonable explanation (which many palestinian extremists have even voiced themselves)
      - Schmerika 3mo ago
        > children got killed because their school was used as a ground base to fire rockets from. I don't really know how to talk to people who think killing children - by the tens of thousands - is ever justified, but maybe this will help you: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t-mMt3c3ngQ https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t-mMt3c3ngQ

throwaway9917 3mo ago

I've often heard defenders of Israel crap on the UN General Assembly like it's some woke antifa type organization, but it's one representative per country, chosen by the country's government. If almost every country in the world is constantly officially condemning you, perhaps they are not the problem.

throw358643 3mo ago
It’s disingenuous to pretend that the Middle East conflict does not align people according to tribal, religious, and political groupings, as well as international alliances. Given that Jews are 0.2% of the world’s population, in contrast to a very large population of people openly biased against Israel, it’s no surprise that when you take a global popular vote that Jews will lose. The UN is not a neutral institution.
- throwaway9917 3mo ago
  Sure I understand how Arab or Muslim countries might vote against Israel reflexively, but it's not just them, it's almost the entire world. Go look at this list of Israel related General Assembly resolutions in 2025: https://unwatch.org/2025-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-of-the-world/ https://unwatch.org/2025-unga-resolutions-on-israel-vs-rest-... The typical vote is like 142-6. The Israeli claim is that almost the entire world are a bunch of anti-Semites that hate them for who they are. Perhaps it's not who they are but what they are doing.
  - throw358643 3mo ago
    From your link: “From 2015 through 2024, the UN General Assembly has adopted 173 resolutions against Israel and 80 against other countries.” Do you seriously think that throughout this time Israel has been that much worse than all other countries? There are many other indications that the UN is biased about Israel: Only one country has its own permanent agenda Item 7 in the UN. Palestinian refugees have their own organization vs refugees from all over the world, with almost 10x the budget per person. In the UNESCO description of Jerusalem it says “The Wailing Wall delimits the quarters of the different religious communities”. There are many other examples like this. Not a single country in the world opened its doors to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. So the majority of the world can absolutely be wrong.
    - pvaldes 3mo ago
      > Not a single country in the world opened its doors to Jewish refugees during the Holocaust. Not one except USA. And Sweden, Dominican Republic, Denmark, France, Luxembourg, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Poland, Bolivia, Spain, the Soviets and all the other countries that allowed safe crossing. Even Italy hid Jews... so what history books do you studied?.
      - n4r9 3mo ago
        And the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_refugees_from_German-occupied_Europe_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_refugees_from_German-oc...
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  - Protostome 3mo ago
Protostome 3mo ago
Well, given that between 2015 and 2024 alone, the General Assembly adopted 154 resolutions against Israel. That's more than Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Russia, China *combined*, I find it a bit ... unfair, wouldn't you say?
- Schmerika 3mo ago
  More than 14,500 children were killed by Israel in that period. 14,500 / 154 = more than 94 children per resolution. Seems fair. How many children did "Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Russia, China combined" kill in this period, I hear you whatabout: Highest reasonable estimates are ~5,000–10,000 children. ... So, no. I don't think it's unfair. Now let's compare how many sanctions have been inflicted on each country above. If you measure by number of sanctioned individuals/entities, a rough ranking would be: 1: Russia. 2: Iran. 3: North Korea. 4: Sudan. 5: China. 6: Israel. ... So if you're trying to hint that the whole world is only against genocide because they're antisemitic, the facts you're referring to don't really seem to back you up. At all.
  - Protostome 3mo ago
    Again, children got killed because their school was used as a ground base to fire rockets from. Do you expect Israelis to allow Hamas rockets to fall in Israeli schools? That's not a reasonable expectation. The choice hamas forces israel to make is cruel and inhuman, that is direct consequence of their radical islamic belief of martirdom. They do not see death like the same way as the west. To them (and I'm not talking about all palestinians, for sure, only Hamas senior leadership which governs Gaza) dead children is a weapon against Israel. In light of this, all their actions finally make sense: 1. No civil defenses, or shelters - just tunnels. 2. Firing from schools and hospitals, as well as hiding weapons and ammo in those places. 3. Arming and sending children to fight That's the most reasonable explanation (which many palestinian extremists have even voiced themselves)
    - Schmerika 3mo ago
      > children got killed because their school was used as a ground base to fire rockets from. I don't really know how to talk to people who think killing children - by the tens of thousands - is ever justified, but maybe this will help you: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t-mMt3c3ngQ https://www.youtube.com/shorts/t-mMt3c3ngQ