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Never fear. We have the technology to help people live with wolves. https://wildlifesecurityinnovations.com/projects/wolves-belgium/ https://wildlifesecurityin

by hcfman 3mo ago

Never fear. We have the technology to help people live with wolves. https://wildlifesecurityinnovations.com/projects/wolves-belgium/ https://wildlifesecurityinnovations.com/projects/wolves-belg... With the most wolf videos here. https://youtube.com/@hcftube1 https://youtube.com/@hcftube1 We have a solar powered thermal local AI wolf detection system that’s been in a field in Belgium for more than 8 months now, monitoring the wolves there. Thermal image motion detection can detection them at much greater distances than PIR sensors and of course in complete darkness. The biggest barrier at the moment to living with wolves, if you true away the human resistance to the idea, is reliable detection for early warning prevention. This is not such a hard problem with computer vision at the level that it is these days. We’ve made it more effective by coupling it with thermal imaging camera modules. Now we just need people willing to want to want to work with such pilot project, which turns out to be a pretty big problem. However, it’s possible that a few influential success stories can bring change to the situation. But there has to be a start first and certainly when this started to be a problem, anything along the lines of prevention was seen as a barrier towards killing them which is what the solution in many people’s eyes is.

therealdkz 3mo ago
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Stevvo 3mo ago
That is a glorified trail camera, really does very little to help people live with wolves. What does is a strict hunting quota; the government decides how many wolves there should be, rather than nature.
- hcfman 3mo ago
  There's the killing again. And no, it's not a glorified trail camera. Very different. Everyone wants to kill before trying measures to keep people and their animals apart. I don't think you can say it does nothing to help people live with wolves because it's not being tried. It's not being tried, because people being convince the only thing that helps is killing everything that requires a bit of effort to live with. I realize it's very human to destroy and kill, but I think we should strive to do better. Humans have already stolen so much from nature and the animals, don't you think a little effort to do better would be a good thing?
  - gonzalohm 3mo ago
    A lot of people are like that when dealing with nature. Oh I don't want squirrels in my backyard, let me put some poison... We really don't deserve a place on this planet
    - micromacrofoot 3mo ago
      same with mosquitoes, let's just spray or fog and kill all the other bugs too... including ones that kill mosquitos
      - nullstyle 3mo ago
        I’ll argue mozzies are responsible for more suffering than humans any day of the week. They need to go. Lets just get our targeting good enough.
        micromacrofoot 3mo ago
        the good news is that if we can't figure out how to target them specifically soon, we'll have already killed all the side effects
    - idiotsecant 3mo ago
      ... What do you think wolves do all day?
      - pvaldes 3mo ago
        They mostly sleep and play all day. As anybody with a chonky dog at home can confirm. And they provide premium ecological services all night that would be really expensive to cover by ourselves.
      - idiotsecant 3mo ago
        They kill and eat things. Brutally and sometimes primarily for fun. Unless you somehow consider yourself no longer an animal I'm not sure eradicating capable predators is deserving of 'no longer living on this planet'
gbraad 3mo ago
Cameras do not actively protect people or livestock, it just monitors and retroactively actions are taken. I prefer the German method where they make the wolves fear people. https://youtu.be/hmVowVaWUms https://youtu.be/hmVowVaWUms
- hcfman 3mo ago
  Yes. Old camera do that. The systems I developed are. It based on microcontrollers. But secure boot Linux systems. They detect wolves within 2 seconds on pi based version, sub second on the jetson based ones. Then websocket connected subscribers speak a loud alert to wake the person up and auto load the camera view over the permanently up VPN. The person monitoring can then verify on how ever many cameras are connected and illicit many different kinds of responses. This is not a standard wild camera setup. I’m using high resolution 640x512 res thermal modules to see night and day. Our system is already being used in Greenland for polar bears and has detected bears three times now from a long distance and the safety group were able to chase it away. There it’s monitoring 22 cameras with a single jetson. And indeed, the idea is very rapid detection and validation and then potentially remote active response. It has all the necessary controls.

by hcfman 3mo ago

therealdkz 3mo ago

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Stevvo 3mo ago

That is a glorified trail camera, really does very little to help people live with wolves. What does is a strict hunting quota; the government decides how many wolves there should be, rather than nature.

hcfman 3mo ago
There's the killing again. And no, it's not a glorified trail camera. Very different. Everyone wants to kill before trying measures to keep people and their animals apart. I don't think you can say it does nothing to help people live with wolves because it's not being tried. It's not being tried, because people being convince the only thing that helps is killing everything that requires a bit of effort to live with. I realize it's very human to destroy and kill, but I think we should strive to do better. Humans have already stolen so much from nature and the animals, don't you think a little effort to do better would be a good thing?
- gonzalohm 3mo ago
  A lot of people are like that when dealing with nature. Oh I don't want squirrels in my backyard, let me put some poison... We really don't deserve a place on this planet
  - micromacrofoot 3mo ago
    same with mosquitoes, let's just spray or fog and kill all the other bugs too... including ones that kill mosquitos
    - nullstyle 3mo ago
      I’ll argue mozzies are responsible for more suffering than humans any day of the week. They need to go. Lets just get our targeting good enough.
      - micromacrofoot 3mo ago
        the good news is that if we can't figure out how to target them specifically soon, we'll have already killed all the side effects
  - idiotsecant 3mo ago
    ... What do you think wolves do all day?
    - pvaldes 3mo ago
      They mostly sleep and play all day. As anybody with a chonky dog at home can confirm. And they provide premium ecological services all night that would be really expensive to cover by ourselves.
    - idiotsecant 3mo ago
      They kill and eat things. Brutally and sometimes primarily for fun. Unless you somehow consider yourself no longer an animal I'm not sure eradicating capable predators is deserving of 'no longer living on this planet'

gbraad 3mo ago

Cameras do not actively protect people or livestock, it just monitors and retroactively actions are taken. I prefer the German method where they make the wolves fear people. https://youtu.be/hmVowVaWUms https://youtu.be/hmVowVaWUms

hcfman 3mo ago
Yes. Old camera do that. The systems I developed are. It based on microcontrollers. But secure boot Linux systems. They detect wolves within 2 seconds on pi based version, sub second on the jetson based ones. Then websocket connected subscribers speak a loud alert to wake the person up and auto load the camera view over the permanently up VPN. The person monitoring can then verify on how ever many cameras are connected and illicit many different kinds of responses. This is not a standard wild camera setup. I’m using high resolution 640x512 res thermal modules to see night and day. Our system is already being used in Greenland for polar bears and has detected bears three times now from a long distance and the safety group were able to chase it away. There it’s monitoring 22 cameras with a single jetson. And indeed, the idea is very rapid detection and validation and then potentially remote active response. It has all the necessary controls.