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Manual D, the flock system is still very new. Why are you confident a private companies monetization of public whereabouts will stay legal? There hasent really
by filup 3mo ago
Manual D, the flock system is still very new. Why are you confident a private companies monetization of public whereabouts will stay legal? There hasent really been any precedent set on this. And the system is wildly unpopular In the public eye?
- Manuel_D 3mo agoIn case you didn't read it, the 9th circuit upheld the use of Flock cameras. The precedence is as high as it gets, short of a supreme Court decision: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48636421 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48636421 You're being exposed to a very specific group of people when you read Hacker News or Reddit. Plenty of people are happy to have Flock cameras in their neighborhood on account of the improved ability to investigate crime.
- filup 3mo agoAre you referring to the IJ case? https://ij.org/case/norfolk-virginia-camera-surveillance/ https://ij.org/case/norfolk-virginia-camera-surveillance/
- Manuel_D 3mo agoI'm referring to the case I linked.
- filup 3mo agoClearly a different situation considering the guy was in a rental vehical with GPS. Of course their is no reasonable expectation of privacy here. It's not his car lol. The LEARN db query was auxillary to the precedent here. I can't see the jump your making at all or how this precedent holds any would hold water in the case of a innocent party. Its probably just a matter of time until the perfect case is presented and new case law established. Precedents change you know?
- Manuel_D 3mo agoIs there a reasonable expectation of privacy operating a car on public roads? People generally don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in public. That's why you can record and photograph people in public whether or not they agree to be recorded. It's the same logic that makes red light cameras and parking license plate scanners legal.
- filup 3mo agoYes, there is a reasonable expectation of privacy while driving on public roads. The expectation has been completely eroded by flock safety.
- Manuel_D 3mo agoNo, there is no reasonable expectation of privacy whole driving on public roads. This was the case even before Flock. ALPRs were invented in the 70s and started getting widely deployed in the 90s. It's remarkable how many people don't realize this technology decades old.