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Yeah exactly. I'm not exactly building TUI's every day, but even i felt pain when i read that "small game engine" post

by mvATM99 3mo ago

TacticalCoder 3mo ago
> I'm not exactly building TUI's every day, but even i felt pain when i read that "small game engine" post The bigger issue is they where somehow thinking it was "cool" and "advanced" while it's just a kludgy rube-goldbergy monstrous hack. Which is of course only semi-working: to me the model thinking what you see is what it outputs in the TUI is the deal-breaker for me. It's of course not working like that for they're apparently, in their "game engine", converting on the fly a headless browser to approximated characters to display in the terminal. So the model tells you he did output ASCII but people are copy/pasting (because, yes, at times you want to copy/paste) Unicode chars. Plenty of bug reports and pissed users. That's the bigger issue. The biggest issue is those thinking a 10 GB VM required to run a headless Electron browser and then fuxx0ring characters conversion is somehow an achievement.
- dyarosla 3mo ago
  Whats the small game engine post?
  - gbnwl 3mo ago
    https://xcancel.com/trq212/status/2014051501786931427#m https://xcancel.com/trq212/status/2014051501786931427#m
    - Dilettante_ 3mo ago
      Seeing Jonathan blow invoked and his response in the comments tickled me pink
      - inigyou 3mo ago
        Was it Casey Muratori that spoke about an AI educing allocations from 10k per frame to 200 per frame, but the manual programming work got it to 0 instead?
    - yencabulator 3mo ago
      The stupidest thing is that according to that logic, ncurses is a game engine too.
matheusmoreira 3mo ago
At least game engines manage to render their frames properly. Claude Code sometimes eats entire paragraphs of text output, resulting in things such as numbered lists jumping from 2 to 4 out of nowhere. I'd just ask Claude to repeat himself at first but it happens so often that I actually made a little tool to dig up the output inside the session history and present it properly in a separate terminal.
- LtWorf 3mo ago
  Truly, the future!

Yeah exactly. I'm not exactly building TUI's every day, but even i felt pain when i read that "small game engine" post

by mvATM99 3mo ago

Yeah exactly. I'm not exactly building TUI's every day, but even i felt pain when i read that "small game engine" post

> I'm not exactly building TUI's every day, but even i felt pain when i read that "small game engine" post The bigger issue is they where somehow thinking it was "cool" and "advanced" while it's just a kludgy rube-goldbergy monstrous hack. Which is of course only semi-working: to me the model thinking what you see is what it outputs in the TUI is the deal-breaker for me. It's of course not working like that for they're apparently, in their "game engine", converting on the fly a headless browser to approximated characters to display in the terminal. So the model tells you he did output ASCII but people are copy/pasting (because, yes, at times you want to copy/paste) Unicode chars. Plenty of bug reports and pissed users. That's the bigger issue. The biggest issue is those thinking a 10 GB VM required to run a headless Electron browser and then fuxx0ring characters conversion is somehow an achievement.

dyarosla 3mo ago
Whats the small game engine post?
- gbnwl 3mo ago
  https://xcancel.com/trq212/status/2014051501786931427#m https://xcancel.com/trq212/status/2014051501786931427#m
  - Dilettante_ 3mo ago
    Seeing Jonathan blow invoked and his response in the comments tickled me pink
    - inigyou 3mo ago
      Was it Casey Muratori that spoke about an AI educing allocations from 10k per frame to 200 per frame, but the manual programming work got it to 0 instead?
  - yencabulator 3mo ago
    The stupidest thing is that according to that logic, ncurses is a game engine too.

matheusmoreira 3mo ago

At least game engines manage to render their frames properly. Claude Code sometimes eats entire paragraphs of text output, resulting in things such as numbered lists jumping from 2 to 4 out of nowhere. I'd just ask Claude to repeat himself at first but it happens so often that I actually made a little tool to dig up the output inside the session history and present it properly in a separate terminal.

LtWorf 3mo ago
Truly, the future!