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Samsung adds Multi-Window despite threat from Google

8 points by mun2mun 14y ago

dragonbonheur 14y ago
If Google had used standard Java, this would not have been an issue... They should implement floating windows ASAP.
- mtgx 14y ago
  Oh, please no. Why would you want floating windows on a tablet? Can you really envision yourself dragging several windows at a time on a small 10" screen, or even smaller than that? Not to mention the kind of battery and CPU drain that would be. If the perception that "Android is a battery hog" because of widgets and having a more "real" multi-tasking system, hasn't negatively impacted Android yet, this certainly will. At most Android tablets just need a split-screen view.
  - sahaskatta 14y ago
    I agree. Floating windows would be horrible on tablets. I don't think this Samsung implementation is great for usability either. Microsoft is at least heading in the right direction since Windows 8 allows two programs metro apps to run side-by-side. Unfortunately, even their implementation has flaws: it only allows fixed sizes of 70%/30% or 30%/70%. Users can't manually adjust the divider between the apps to 50%/50%.
fpgeek 14y ago
Not the poster's fault, but the original title is ignorant at best and deliberately deceptive at worst. First, Samsung did exactly what Google suggested to Cornerstone / CyanogenMod - make it an optional extension that apps can opt into. Here's some (unofficial) documentation about that: http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/developers-add-support-for-samsung-multi-window-to-your-apps-r823 http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/developers-add-sup... Second, I have a Galaxy Note 2. Applications that support multi-window on my phone (i.e. where the application developer has opted into the feature) include: Gmail, Chrome, (Google) Maps, YouTube and (Google) talk. I'm sure all of that was done over the vociferous objections of Dianne Hackborn and the rest of the Android team.
tvwonline 14y ago
Right now, a large number of Android sales are Samsung devices. Samsung is very profitable. [1] There is a risk to Google that if there is not sufficient diversification in the Android market then Samsung can do what they want - including in an extreme scenario forking away from stock Android and creating their own lock in ecosystem to go up against Apple. (this is an extreme scenario - but I don't think its impossible) Remember non-tech savvy people may just enter a store and think do I want an Apple or Samsung phone/tablet. I also wonder if the real purpose of the Nexus devices are to help get other devices makers up to speed to compete with Samsung. [1] http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/14/google-vs-samsung/ http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/14/google-vs-samsung/
lbolognini 14y ago
Yay, popups coming to Android!

8 points by mun2mun 14y ago

dragonbonheur 14y ago

If Google had used standard Java, this would not have been an issue... They should implement floating windows ASAP.

mtgx 14y ago
Oh, please no. Why would you want floating windows on a tablet? Can you really envision yourself dragging several windows at a time on a small 10" screen, or even smaller than that? Not to mention the kind of battery and CPU drain that would be. If the perception that "Android is a battery hog" because of widgets and having a more "real" multi-tasking system, hasn't negatively impacted Android yet, this certainly will. At most Android tablets just need a split-screen view.
- sahaskatta 14y ago
  I agree. Floating windows would be horrible on tablets. I don't think this Samsung implementation is great for usability either. Microsoft is at least heading in the right direction since Windows 8 allows two programs metro apps to run side-by-side. Unfortunately, even their implementation has flaws: it only allows fixed sizes of 70%/30% or 30%/70%. Users can't manually adjust the divider between the apps to 50%/50%.

fpgeek 14y ago

Not the poster's fault, but the original title is ignorant at best and deliberately deceptive at worst. First, Samsung did exactly what Google suggested to Cornerstone / CyanogenMod - make it an optional extension that apps can opt into. Here's some (unofficial) documentation about that: http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/developers-add-support-for-samsung-multi-window-to-your-apps-r823 http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/developers-add-sup... Second, I have a Galaxy Note 2. Applications that support multi-window on my phone (i.e. where the application developer has opted into the feature) include: Gmail, Chrome, (Google) Maps, YouTube and (Google) talk. I'm sure all of that was done over the vociferous objections of Dianne Hackborn and the rest of the Android team.

tvwonline 14y ago

Right now, a large number of Android sales are Samsung devices. Samsung is very profitable. [1] There is a risk to Google that if there is not sufficient diversification in the Android market then Samsung can do what they want - including in an extreme scenario forking away from stock Android and creating their own lock in ecosystem to go up against Apple. (this is an extreme scenario - but I don't think its impossible) Remember non-tech savvy people may just enter a store and think do I want an Apple or Samsung phone/tablet. I also wonder if the real purpose of the Nexus devices are to help get other devices makers up to speed to compete with Samsung. [1] http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/14/google-vs-samsung/ http://www.asymco.com/2012/11/14/google-vs-samsung/

lbolognini 14y ago

Yay, popups coming to Android!