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Well, France has 99% IPv6 deployment through both mobile and landline these days https://www.arcep.fr/fileadmin/reprise/observatoire/ipv6/Arcep_2025_Barometer_

by lloeki 3mo ago

Well, France has 99% IPv6 deployment through both mobile and landline these days https://www.arcep.fr/fileadmin/reprise/observatoire/ipv6/Arcep_2025_Barometer_of_the_Transition_to_IPv6.pdf https://www.arcep.fr/fileadmin/reprise/observatoire/ipv6/Arc... (2025, from 2024 data) Reason that Google isn't seeing more is a) some BigCo v4 holdouts b) happy eyeballs sometimes landing on v4 because their v6 is shitty 6rd or something (e.g Free SAS)

BrandoElFollito 3mo ago
You mean that Free's ipv6 is not implemented correctly?
- well_ackshually 3mo ago
  Free has ipv6 enabled on 100% of their customers, and while sometimes their software has a few issues, it's working perfectly fine. People just get pissy because Free refuses to pay for peering with Google for e.g. Youtube, and it feels slower, even more on v6. The only ISP not putting out v6 widely is SFR, and thankfully they've gone bankrupt and we will be rid of this scourge.
  - inigyou 3mo ago
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  - BrandoElFollito 3mo ago
    I am on Free (after a few years with Orange because Free could not bother to provide fiber here) but I am considering switching to Bouygues because I pay too much for the connection. The connection is solid, though - thus my lack of enthusiasm.
  - lloeki 3mo ago
    I've been on SFR and had IPv6 for a decade at this point (through multiple moves and on mobile). It's been absolutely reliable in every way. One of the huge holdups for v6 deployment was the absorbtion of the then DOCSIS2-based Numericable, which required a huge migration to DOCSIS3 to even support it, as well as integration of the whole network backhaul that came with it. The reputation _was_ justified at some point far back but they turned the ship around a long time ago and is now entirely an unjustified meme. These past years it's been SFR (via RED) who was keeping the prices competitive, so I can't wait to see the remaining three vultures collude to raise the prices back up again /s. > People just get pissy because Free refuses to pay for peering with Google for e.g. Youtube, and it feels slower, even more on v6. Well when one's paying for a heavily marketed "the fastest around" 1Gbps+ connection or something, and it indeed negotiates the link at that, but one can't play a 720p video over that tube because backhaul routing sucks, one has a right to be annoyed.
vbernat 3mo ago
6rd will soon get away to get native IPv6 instead. Also, 6rd is what allowed France to lead IPv6 deployment.

by lloeki 3mo ago

BrandoElFollito 3mo ago

You mean that Free's ipv6 is not implemented correctly?

well_ackshually 3mo ago
Free has ipv6 enabled on 100% of their customers, and while sometimes their software has a few issues, it's working perfectly fine. People just get pissy because Free refuses to pay for peering with Google for e.g. Youtube, and it feels slower, even more on v6. The only ISP not putting out v6 widely is SFR, and thankfully they've gone bankrupt and we will be rid of this scourge.
- inigyou 3mo ago
  [dead]
- BrandoElFollito 3mo ago
  I am on Free (after a few years with Orange because Free could not bother to provide fiber here) but I am considering switching to Bouygues because I pay too much for the connection. The connection is solid, though - thus my lack of enthusiasm.
- lloeki 3mo ago
  I've been on SFR and had IPv6 for a decade at this point (through multiple moves and on mobile). It's been absolutely reliable in every way. One of the huge holdups for v6 deployment was the absorbtion of the then DOCSIS2-based Numericable, which required a huge migration to DOCSIS3 to even support it, as well as integration of the whole network backhaul that came with it. The reputation _was_ justified at some point far back but they turned the ship around a long time ago and is now entirely an unjustified meme. These past years it's been SFR (via RED) who was keeping the prices competitive, so I can't wait to see the remaining three vultures collude to raise the prices back up again /s. > People just get pissy because Free refuses to pay for peering with Google for e.g. Youtube, and it feels slower, even more on v6. Well when one's paying for a heavily marketed "the fastest around" 1Gbps+ connection or something, and it indeed negotiates the link at that, but one can't play a 720p video over that tube because backhaul routing sucks, one has a right to be annoyed.

vbernat 3mo ago

6rd will soon get away to get native IPv6 instead. Also, 6rd is what allowed France to lead IPv6 deployment.