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I agree. The US Army already recognized this problem and developed the Munson last before WWI. Some mid and high-end footwear brands produce boots with Munson

by nextos 3mo ago

I agree. The US Army already recognized this problem and developed the Munson last before WWI. Some mid and high-end footwear brands produce boots with Munson or Munson-like lasts. It helps tremendously. I cannot go back to narrow toeboxes. Oddly, lots of sports footwear suffers from the same issue and wide toeboxes are not as popular as they should be.

cassianoleal 3mo ago
Sports footwear is interesting. Football (soccer) boots tend to be extremely narrow. Part of the reason is to keep the foot firm in it, but I suspect a lot of players would benefit from wider boxes. Climbing boots are another interesting one. I can't wear most brands at all. I have settled on Scarpa as they tend to be wider. A lot of climbers have a tendency to downsize them massively though, and I honestly don't know how they do that. I have been purchasing them at least at my street size, and the next pair I get will be a whole number up. Not because they're just uncomfortable, but rather because they're nearly impossible to get in otherwise. I do wish I'd find wider toeboxes though, so I could get a pair that fits tight, but not torture tight.
- CobaltFire 3mo ago
  Skiing is another one like climbing. Its only recently where higher volumes and wider forefoots are available, and they still try to tell you to go a size down.
dredmorbius 3mo ago
TIL: "How The Munson Last Revolutionized Military Footwear" <https://www.stitchdown.com/info/munson-last-origins/ https://www.stitchdown.com/info/munson-last-origins/>.
Hardwired8976 3mo ago
Any recommendations for the brands? I am looking for Derbies and Chukka boots
- dredmorbius 3mo ago
  Red Wings apparently have some Munson lasts, mentioned when I was investigating the topic earlier, though I don't know for which models or if they match what you're looking for. They have an excellent quality reputation, though new boots are spendy. Used show up occasionally.
  - dredmorbius 3mo ago
    More: Brands such as Rolling Dub Trio and John Lofgren use Munson lasts that closely resemble the original shape; other makers, such as Nicks Boots, Viberg, and Iron Boots have lasts that draw direct inspiration from that shape. <https://www.stitchdown.com/info/munson-last-origins/ https://www.stitchdown.com/info/munson-last-origins/> There are also results from an online search, though prices are ... high. I'm seeing $600+ for boots advertised as built on Munson lasts.

by nextos 3mo ago

cassianoleal 3mo ago

Sports footwear is interesting. Football (soccer) boots tend to be extremely narrow. Part of the reason is to keep the foot firm in it, but I suspect a lot of players would benefit from wider boxes. Climbing boots are another interesting one. I can't wear most brands at all. I have settled on Scarpa as they tend to be wider. A lot of climbers have a tendency to downsize them massively though, and I honestly don't know how they do that. I have been purchasing them at least at my street size, and the next pair I get will be a whole number up. Not because they're just uncomfortable, but rather because they're nearly impossible to get in otherwise. I do wish I'd find wider toeboxes though, so I could get a pair that fits tight, but not torture tight.

CobaltFire 3mo ago
Skiing is another one like climbing. Its only recently where higher volumes and wider forefoots are available, and they still try to tell you to go a size down.

dredmorbius 3mo ago

TIL: "How The Munson Last Revolutionized Military Footwear" <https://www.stitchdown.com/info/munson-last-origins/ https://www.stitchdown.com/info/munson-last-origins/>.

Hardwired8976 3mo ago

Any recommendations for the brands? I am looking for Derbies and Chukka boots

dredmorbius 3mo ago
Red Wings apparently have some Munson lasts, mentioned when I was investigating the topic earlier, though I don't know for which models or if they match what you're looking for. They have an excellent quality reputation, though new boots are spendy. Used show up occasionally.
- dredmorbius 3mo ago
  More: Brands such as Rolling Dub Trio and John Lofgren use Munson lasts that closely resemble the original shape; other makers, such as Nicks Boots, Viberg, and Iron Boots have lasts that draw direct inspiration from that shape. <https://www.stitchdown.com/info/munson-last-origins/ https://www.stitchdown.com/info/munson-last-origins/> There are also results from an online search, though prices are ... high. I'm seeing $600+ for boots advertised as built on Munson lasts.