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There must be a metaphor somewhere in this, when somehow it is the angry youth that discovers something of value hidden in plain view that no one bothered to lo
by Dependance 3mo ago
There must be a metaphor somewhere in this, when somehow it is the angry youth that discovers something of value hidden in plain view that no one bothered to look at before !
- al_borland 3mo agoI visited Rome last year. There was a lot of talk about how long it was taking to build a new subway line, because they kept running into ancient artifacts. It was also commonly said that the city was like a lasagna, with layers upon layers of history under everything. Building that were originally built elevated are now at street level. It almost seems hard not to find ancient ruins. It then becomes a question of priorities and resource allocation.
- sidewndr46 3mo agoI thought the buildings getting lower was just the ground compressing. The foundation is solid, but the ground underneath still compresses. There are circumstances like Seattle where they literally built up the city, but those are less common
- vanattab 3mo agoNo. The ground does not usually significantly compress under those loads. Remember for much of human history buildings are build with wood and non vitrified bricks that readily break back-down into mud/gravel/organic matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_(archaeology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_(archaeology)
- RetroTechie 3mo agoIf they're so common, why not incorporate into the construction project? Walk through a modern subway, see bits & pieces of ancient history all over the place. Buy icecream, sit on a bench that labourers hacked out of stone 2ky ago.
- incanus77 3mo agoI visited Athens in 2006 shortly after the Olympics were held there and the city had been refreshed. The Syntagma Square subway station did exactly this, with layers of archaeology revealed behind glass as you descended the stairs. It was magnificent!
- SiempreViernes 3mo agoThey do do that? https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20260408-a-150-metro-ticket-to-ancient-rome https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20260408-a-150-metro-tick...
- jldugger 3mo agoI mean, it's the rest of the subway line thats the problem -- how many ancient sites do you tunnel through to reach the next stop?
- olalonde 3mo agoReminds me that story about the beach table in Bulgaria, that turned out to be a 1,700-year-old Roman tomb: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article291042710.html https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article2...
- rsynnott 3mo agoThat's actually done a lot in ruin-heavy cities. For instance, here's a Lidl with bonus underfloor Viking village in Dublin: https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/aungier-street-lidl-archaelogy https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/aungier-street-lidl-arch...
- vitally3643 3mo agoBecause it's more expensive and takes longer (which then makes it even more expensive). Which is why ancient ruins in construction sites are often covered up, unreported, or even destroyed.
- jimbokun 3mo ago> If they're so common, why not incorporate into the construction project? If it's the same one I read about, they did.
- WalterBright 3mo agoMy obvious thought is why not dig deeper to build the subways?
- al_borland 3mo agoI’m not sure how deep the new one is, but some of them I went on already seemed extremely deep. I felt like I was on escalators for a long time, and multiple tiers, to the point I was Googling what the tallest escalators were when getting back to my hotel (Rome didn’t make the cut). There is definitely a cost to going deeper, in construction, ongoing maintenance, and the experience for the rider.
- hvb2 3mo agoThere was graffiti as well so others had already found it