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Please remember that science is under attack in the United States - new proposals would gut the nih even beyond the horror that is ongoing. As a scientist I am

Please remember that science is under attack in the United States - new proposals would gut the nih even beyond the horror that is ongoing. As a scientist I am horrified and I truly hope that we don’t abandon the usas historically strong investment in the future.

fillskills 3mo ago
Kindly share more details
- pvaldes 3mo ago
  > Kindly share more details (about your claim that science is under attack in the United States) Is of public knowledge that the National Science Foundation and funds for thousands of scientific projects were gutted by DOGE in 2025. Each one of the research lines cut needed typically 10 years to grow, so Trump and GOP had destroyed an incredible amount of years of research just on 2025, with consequences probably extending into 2035 or so. Without any visible benefit for Americans, that had still seen their debt sky-rocketing while their taxes are spent in pools and sinks. Trump has also assured to engrave into the brains of the whole scientific community that US is now an hostile place for students and researchers. The whole planet had seen the main universities attacked by Trump (with Harvard resisting, and Columbia losing their pride), the foreign students targeted by ICE and the department of Education eviscerated Also the thousands of workers in USAID and Health and Human Services fired for fun. Without mentioning the DOGE mess done at the national nuclear safety administration with 400 essential workers fired and then asked to return to the job ASAP, please, please.
- SubiculumCode 3mo ago
  1. Trump has been trying to cut Science budgers by larger percentages for a while now. Congress has not let them. 2. NIH funding notice of awards has slowed to a crawl since Trump did not get his wish to cut Science funding. 3. Putting scientific funding under political control, instructing them to ignore the reviews conducted by peer scientists. 4. Have practically made international collaborations on grants impossible. An expert in Canada or Europe that would be great? Pretty much, too bad. 5. Pushing policies that make grants cancelable at any moment without need to have a justified reason, including potentially for exercising free speech, disagreeing with Administration doctrine, etc, or because you're ugly. This and the funding uncertainty makes planning difficult...just like business, stability/predictability matters. 6. Pushing policies that prevent funds to help cover costs of dissemination, including conference costs.
  - Vaslo 3mo ago
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    - meebee 3mo ago
      Can you cite any stats or studies that show that this is happening in any substantial amounts? This seems to be one of those "it just makes common sense" when the underlying data is ignored or assumed.
      - dgellow 3mo ago
        You’re asking the anti science side to answer with stats and proofs, that won’t work
    - zzleeper 3mo ago
      I'm pretty sure only a small fraction of grants gave this issue, and the cuts have meanwhile being very wide, without any sort of intelligent approach (I know ppl doing stuff like material science at nasa that now have nothing to do because they cut costs of various inputs, while the very expensive lab equipment is sitting there now unused)
    - thinkingtoilet 3mo ago
      >100% support (10s of millions of Americans do) many of these cuts when scientists are hired because they know someone, or are part of some “group” rather than being the best choice. Prove it. Prove this happens at a large scale. This is just nonsense talking points.
      - Vaslo 3mo ago
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        thinkingtoilet 3mo ago
        Sigh. I'm sure the average person was completely fed up with the federal grant process for medical issues and it was a driving force in their voting decision. Excellent proof.
brandensilva 3mo ago
I've been wondering why they attack science outside of they think it is woke and liberal. It makes no sense to cut off the hand that saves you even as a rich billionaire who wants to control people in a fascist society.
- inglor_cz 3mo ago
  Everyone likes to think that their opponents are evil, highly intelligent, silently scheming types like the legendary Cardinal Richelieu. In reality, mediocre thinkers with inflated egos and little understanding of long-term consequences are pulling the strings almost everywhere.
- jeremyjh 3mo ago
  They don’t believe in competence because they’ve never experienced it. They think everything is narrative and spectacle.
- qingcharles 3mo ago
  It pleases their voters. All the MAGAs I know think scientists are scammers, funded by Bill Gates, brewing up "fake" viruses to reduce the population and insert nanobots to track their movements.
- svnt 3mo ago
  They are all about science and research. What they don’t want is for scientific discoveries to be publicly available, because then it is harder to leverage them for absurd profit margins.
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fillskills 3mo ago

Kindly share more details

pvaldes 3mo ago
> Kindly share more details (about your claim that science is under attack in the United States) Is of public knowledge that the National Science Foundation and funds for thousands of scientific projects were gutted by DOGE in 2025. Each one of the research lines cut needed typically 10 years to grow, so Trump and GOP had destroyed an incredible amount of years of research just on 2025, with consequences probably extending into 2035 or so. Without any visible benefit for Americans, that had still seen their debt sky-rocketing while their taxes are spent in pools and sinks. Trump has also assured to engrave into the brains of the whole scientific community that US is now an hostile place for students and researchers. The whole planet had seen the main universities attacked by Trump (with Harvard resisting, and Columbia losing their pride), the foreign students targeted by ICE and the department of Education eviscerated Also the thousands of workers in USAID and Health and Human Services fired for fun. Without mentioning the DOGE mess done at the national nuclear safety administration with 400 essential workers fired and then asked to return to the job ASAP, please, please.
SubiculumCode 3mo ago
1. Trump has been trying to cut Science budgers by larger percentages for a while now. Congress has not let them. 2. NIH funding notice of awards has slowed to a crawl since Trump did not get his wish to cut Science funding. 3. Putting scientific funding under political control, instructing them to ignore the reviews conducted by peer scientists. 4. Have practically made international collaborations on grants impossible. An expert in Canada or Europe that would be great? Pretty much, too bad. 5. Pushing policies that make grants cancelable at any moment without need to have a justified reason, including potentially for exercising free speech, disagreeing with Administration doctrine, etc, or because you're ugly. This and the funding uncertainty makes planning difficult...just like business, stability/predictability matters. 6. Pushing policies that prevent funds to help cover costs of dissemination, including conference costs.
- Vaslo 3mo ago
  [flagged]
  - meebee 3mo ago
    Can you cite any stats or studies that show that this is happening in any substantial amounts? This seems to be one of those "it just makes common sense" when the underlying data is ignored or assumed.
    - dgellow 3mo ago
      You’re asking the anti science side to answer with stats and proofs, that won’t work
  - zzleeper 3mo ago
    I'm pretty sure only a small fraction of grants gave this issue, and the cuts have meanwhile being very wide, without any sort of intelligent approach (I know ppl doing stuff like material science at nasa that now have nothing to do because they cut costs of various inputs, while the very expensive lab equipment is sitting there now unused)
  - thinkingtoilet 3mo ago
    >100% support (10s of millions of Americans do) many of these cuts when scientists are hired because they know someone, or are part of some “group” rather than being the best choice. Prove it. Prove this happens at a large scale. This is just nonsense talking points.
    - Vaslo 3mo ago
      [flagged]
      - thinkingtoilet 3mo ago
        Sigh. I'm sure the average person was completely fed up with the federal grant process for medical issues and it was a driving force in their voting decision. Excellent proof.

brandensilva 3mo ago

I've been wondering why they attack science outside of they think it is woke and liberal. It makes no sense to cut off the hand that saves you even as a rich billionaire who wants to control people in a fascist society.

inglor_cz 3mo ago
Everyone likes to think that their opponents are evil, highly intelligent, silently scheming types like the legendary Cardinal Richelieu. In reality, mediocre thinkers with inflated egos and little understanding of long-term consequences are pulling the strings almost everywhere.
jeremyjh 3mo ago
They don’t believe in competence because they’ve never experienced it. They think everything is narrative and spectacle.
qingcharles 3mo ago
It pleases their voters. All the MAGAs I know think scientists are scammers, funded by Bill Gates, brewing up "fake" viruses to reduce the population and insert nanobots to track their movements.
svnt 3mo ago
They are all about science and research. What they don’t want is for scientific discoveries to be publicly available, because then it is harder to leverage them for absurd profit margins.

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