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I bought the refreshed M5 version with the new headstrap. I read so many complaints about weight and it was just never an issue for me personally. Maybe the new

I bought the refreshed M5 version with the new headstrap. I read so many complaints about weight and it was just never an issue for me personally. Maybe the new strap is that much better? That said, the battery cable was super annoying, id accidentally catch it multiple times per day. The battery is good for less than 2 hours so i used it plugged into the wall. For zoom calls, the persona thing is hilariously bad, unusable in a business context. Interesting for a few minutes as a tech demo though. The virtual layout is good - a big citrix app screen (its the ipad app) for remote desktop, zoom, safari etc off to the sides and then things like calendar widget pinned to physical wall. But text clarity / quality is just slightly not good enough for software development. Almost, its close. If you dont mind large fonts its good enough. Ultimately returned it but it was a close run thing, i almost kept it. I do still hanker for something like this, tempted to try xreal or other glasses but seems like the PPD is even lower.

goldenarm 3mo ago
What makes zoom bad ? Lag ?
- CraigJPerry 3mo ago
  Zoom itself works absolutely fine, it's just the ipad app you get on vision pro. My complaint is what happens when you turn your camera on - meeting participants see an uncanny valley representation of yourself - your "Persona" which you scan in when you get the device.
asadotzler 3mo ago
It's literally half-Retina visual fidelity. I couldn't stand reading text on it for more than a few minutes.
- sgt 3mo ago
  Once they make such a headset with full retina I'm in
- CraigJPerry 3mo ago
  It's a shame because this is the best visual fidelity i think of all the devices. I managed several days back to back, it's very like 1440p on a 27" and millions of people use that every day productively but when you're spending that kind of money, i don't want £200 monitor quality.
femto 3mo ago
> so i used it plugged into the wall. Careful using body-worn devices when plugged in. Medical power supplies have special requirements to avoid electrocution, because they are often powering equipment in contact with a person's body. Consumer power supplies probably don't, on the assumption that the device will not be charging whilst being worn. People have died from using headphones plugged into USB chargers. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/faulty-usb-phone-charger-blamed-for-sheryl-aldeguers-death-20140627-zsoc8.html https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/faulty-usb-phone-charger...
- throw-the-towel 3mo ago
  Huh, so that might be why my headphones refuse to work when charging.
- CraigJPerry 3mo ago
  >> Consumer power supplies probably don't At least here in the EU they do and i think it's the case in most countries world wide? Looks like that 2014 case might have been a sub-standard charger that didn't conform to required safety standards? I actually experienced a (cheap) charger exploding under my desk back around 2015. There's a youtuber called BigClive that delights in tearing down the bad chargers. Ken Shirrif's blog is the best resource i know of for this topic though. Anyway, i feel pretty safe with the vision pro plugged in with an apple charger. The battery does get warm though...
  - femto 3mo ago
    > At least here in the EU they do In that case it was a cheap USB supply, though there are other reports of similar. "Good" consumer power supply are designed to IEC standards, but to keep the cost down they are different standards to those used for wearable medical equipment. Medical equipment has to conform to IEC 60601, which governs things like electrical isolation and safe failure modes. > i feel pretty safe So be it. It is unlikely, but even a good power supply can fail in the face of a voltage surge on the mains. Absolutely don't wear it plugged in if there is any hint of a thunderstorm!

goldenarm 3mo ago

What makes zoom bad ? Lag ?

CraigJPerry 3mo ago
Zoom itself works absolutely fine, it's just the ipad app you get on vision pro. My complaint is what happens when you turn your camera on - meeting participants see an uncanny valley representation of yourself - your "Persona" which you scan in when you get the device.

asadotzler 3mo ago

It's literally half-Retina visual fidelity. I couldn't stand reading text on it for more than a few minutes.

sgt 3mo ago
Once they make such a headset with full retina I'm in
CraigJPerry 3mo ago
It's a shame because this is the best visual fidelity i think of all the devices. I managed several days back to back, it's very like 1440p on a 27" and millions of people use that every day productively but when you're spending that kind of money, i don't want £200 monitor quality.

femto 3mo ago

> so i used it plugged into the wall. Careful using body-worn devices when plugged in. Medical power supplies have special requirements to avoid electrocution, because they are often powering equipment in contact with a person's body. Consumer power supplies probably don't, on the assumption that the device will not be charging whilst being worn. People have died from using headphones plugged into USB chargers. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/faulty-usb-phone-charger-blamed-for-sheryl-aldeguers-death-20140627-zsoc8.html https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/faulty-usb-phone-charger...

throw-the-towel 3mo ago
Huh, so that might be why my headphones refuse to work when charging.
CraigJPerry 3mo ago
>> Consumer power supplies probably don't At least here in the EU they do and i think it's the case in most countries world wide? Looks like that 2014 case might have been a sub-standard charger that didn't conform to required safety standards? I actually experienced a (cheap) charger exploding under my desk back around 2015. There's a youtuber called BigClive that delights in tearing down the bad chargers. Ken Shirrif's blog is the best resource i know of for this topic though. Anyway, i feel pretty safe with the vision pro plugged in with an apple charger. The battery does get warm though...
- femto 3mo ago
  > At least here in the EU they do In that case it was a cheap USB supply, though there are other reports of similar. "Good" consumer power supply are designed to IEC standards, but to keep the cost down they are different standards to those used for wearable medical equipment. Medical equipment has to conform to IEC 60601, which governs things like electrical isolation and safe failure modes. > i feel pretty safe So be it. It is unlikely, but even a good power supply can fail in the face of a voltage surge on the mains. Absolutely don't wear it plugged in if there is any hint of a thunderstorm!