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Does this affect users that have a primary address in the EU or anyone with a phone that is _in_ the EU?

by cced 3mo ago

joshuat 3mo ago
From past experience, it is when you are physically in the EU, but this implementation could obviously differ from how they've gated features in the past.
- gorbypark 3mo ago
  I have the complete opposite experience. Originally had a Canadian bought iPhone in Spain, had all the features a Canadian has and a European doesn’t (or vice versa). Upgraded to a Spanish bought iPhone and I am still a “Canadian”. I’ve been here for nearly 5 years but my Apple account is still fully Canadian (Canadian address, Canadian credit card on file). I think it’s Apple account location, maybe with some sort of system to allow people to switch countries but not allowing that to bypass restrictions? Or: that’s why a EU citizen can’t just switch their account location to unlock features?
  - simjnd 3mo ago
    I have a European account, when I lived in Japan I could use all the features (iPhone Mirroring, etc.) that are blocked in the EU. When back in the EU I can still use them for about 2 weeks before they get blocked again.
    - gorbypark 3mo ago
      Wow, odd. I haven't even set foot in Canada in 4.5 years and still have all the blocked features!
giobox 3mo ago
The APIs in iOS that turn feature flags on/off as you travel now have gotten insanely complex. Some are on time triggers, some change instantly, some depend on where your iCloud account was setup, AFAIK there isn't a black and white answer as to what happens when you move a non-EU iPhone through Europe anymore, "it depends". It's similarly vague in the other direction. Apple themselves have claimed recent EU compliance has led to over 600 new or changed APIs in the OS. I've spent a fair amount of time with my iPhone in both the EU and the USA, have local cell service registered in both regions. its nothing as simple as a geo-location check anymore. It's a problem that has grown more complex over the decades too, as more and more countries implement their own slightly differing legislation.

Does this affect users that have a primary address in the EU or anyone with a phone that is _in_ the EU?

by cced 3mo ago

Does this affect users that have a primary address in the EU or anyone with a phone that is _in_ the EU?

From past experience, it is when you are physically in the EU, but this implementation could obviously differ from how they've gated features in the past.

gorbypark 3mo ago
I have the complete opposite experience. Originally had a Canadian bought iPhone in Spain, had all the features a Canadian has and a European doesn’t (or vice versa). Upgraded to a Spanish bought iPhone and I am still a “Canadian”. I’ve been here for nearly 5 years but my Apple account is still fully Canadian (Canadian address, Canadian credit card on file). I think it’s Apple account location, maybe with some sort of system to allow people to switch countries but not allowing that to bypass restrictions? Or: that’s why a EU citizen can’t just switch their account location to unlock features?
- simjnd 3mo ago
  I have a European account, when I lived in Japan I could use all the features (iPhone Mirroring, etc.) that are blocked in the EU. When back in the EU I can still use them for about 2 weeks before they get blocked again.
  - gorbypark 3mo ago
    Wow, odd. I haven't even set foot in Canada in 4.5 years and still have all the blocked features!

giobox 3mo ago

The APIs in iOS that turn feature flags on/off as you travel now have gotten insanely complex. Some are on time triggers, some change instantly, some depend on where your iCloud account was setup, AFAIK there isn't a black and white answer as to what happens when you move a non-EU iPhone through Europe anymore, "it depends". It's similarly vague in the other direction. Apple themselves have claimed recent EU compliance has led to over 600 new or changed APIs in the OS. I've spent a fair amount of time with my iPhone in both the EU and the USA, have local cell service registered in both regions. its nothing as simple as a geo-location check anymore. It's a problem that has grown more complex over the decades too, as more and more countries implement their own slightly differing legislation.