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I love such stories. Right now, a lot of folks I know are struggling to find jobs, so I read the part about how he got a job the first day he was out of jail wi

by vijucat 3mo ago

I love such stories. Right now, a lot of folks I know are struggling to find jobs, so I read the part about how he got a job the first day he was out of jail with some astonishment and nostalgia for the simpler days, when showing interest was often enough to land the job! Now, hoop number 1, the AI resume filter, is a strange obstacle that one has to jump through first.

zuzululu 3mo ago
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- ofjcihen 3mo ago
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- stringfood 3mo ago
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- trumpdong 3mo ago
  Why'd people downvote this? The minimum you need to be doing is pasting role descriptions and your résumé into ChatGPT and asking: should I hire this person? Because that's what every company's HR department is doing (automatically) and if the answer is no, then you may as well not bother sending the application. Or you could tweak it until it says yes.
  - zuzululu 3mo ago
    I think earlier there were few HN users who didn't like my opinions on another thread, came here to flag and downvote my comments and leave rather mean replies all over my profile. I don't think much of it and I forgive people who do it. Or maybe there really are people who think its okay to use AI to hire/filter candidates but not when candidates use AI to optimize to get around that screen. Using AI, I've been able to land several interviews and work 3 jobs remotely currently without much effort.
    - trumpdong 3mo ago
      How did you do that? I don't get many interviews even after making sure AI likes my resume.
      - zuzululu 3mo ago
        I applied to 1000 jobs over the year 17 interviews 5 offers I accepted 3 of them and work 16 hours a day. So thats roughly 5 hours of deep work per day. if I wasn't remote working then the extra 3~5 hours would've been spent on commute, figuring out where to eat, silly banters with coworkers or office politics and just non-essential stuff that anti-remote people advocate for. I would accepted all 5 if I could but its just impossible to fit more than 3 stand up meetings in different time zones. It's also tricky at times to manage schedule, you have to keep your work space segregated. So it's a combination of Resume strength (don't spend too much time on polishing it with AI as it can't replace experience) and market demand (really question if you have anything special) Don't get discouraged brother! I hope this can help you.
    - buttercraft 3mo ago
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      - zuzululu 3mo ago
        > because you wished death upon a member of this community in an earlier comment where did i say this ? this is getting weird now. can you please follow HN guidelines and keep discussions relevant ? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - smithoc 3mo ago
      So you've used AI to do fraud and you're confused why people are opposed to this? You're the reason companies are pushing return to office and putting candidates through gauntlets of interviews and homework - because otherwise they end up hiring someone who lied on their resume and is trying to collect 3 salaries until they get caught and fired.
- xarope 3mo ago
  part of this I understand is survival. And I understand why you do this. The other part of this is why it's so frustrating for me to find the right person. Everybody's resume looks perfect for the role, and I have to waste 30-45 mins digging into their actual experience. You have done yourself a great disservice by wasting that time sitting in an interview you were not qualified for, and worse still I always feel there are other, more qualified people, who I have missed/passed over their resume since it wasn't AI tuned. Sincerely, I don't know how t make this better.
  - zuzululu 3mo ago
    I understand your frustration and i hope to have a earnest discussion on this. One of the 3 jobs require hiring other developers. I don't find it difficult at all. I have my own intuition and technique I rely on. If you are wasting 30~45 minutes on a resume, you are probably chasing the wrong signals. It's not my fault. > You have done yourself a great disservice by wasting that time sitting in an interview you were not qualified for, and worse still I always feel there are other, more qualified people, who I have missed/passed over their resume since it wasn't AI tuned. How can I know if I meet the prospective employee's criteria or not before I do the interview? How am I to be held reliable for other people's failure to make themselves visible or your frankly your lack of skill at recruiment? It's convenient to blame AI for any shortcomings these days but if you don't know what you are doing, you were always going to reach for something external something imagined to deflect your own areas that need improvement.
gavinray 3mo ago
The job market is rough. My wife went back to school for audio/sound design, finished the program + got a bunch of certifications. She's been trying to get anything, even an unpaid internship, doing sound design, going to local meetups, online conferences, and hasn't had much luck. But I told her: it's just a matter of persistence and time. If you're agreeable to be around, passionate about something, and just show up everyday, eventually something is likely to happen.
- Joel_Mckay 3mo ago
  Without a portfolio it will be difficult. Would recommend joining a local film club, and get a few small projects done. Additionally, volunteer with local church events, or regular city music festivals. Also, could join the local union intake for the production studios. It will be awful until one gets the base hours completed, but it is a feast or famine kind of work schedule some can tolerate. Fine work if you are still a kid. Finding stuff online is usually a fools errand these days mostly due to "AI" data mining operations, or outright cons. Best of luck =3
  - ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago
    The key, for me, was to get a computer. Once I had that, the world opened up. It allowed me to "get my hands dirty," and experiment, as well as build a portfolio. To this day, I have a large amount of public code. It's a habit that I've had, all my adult life.
- jzemeocala 3mo ago
  As someone who has worked in the music sphere with many hats over the past few decades: her best shot is to get people talking about her, perhaps find some local musicians she likes and offer cheap\free recordings to fill in her portfolio and get that word of mouth started. Successful people in the music world (both on and off stage) HAVE to mingle with musicians (not other engineers) heavily to get noticed and recommended
- firesteelrain 3mo ago
  I applied to 100+ places in 2005. Took a job an hour from home for a year and half. Eventually found something closer to home. You take what you can find at the time until you find where you want to be

by vijucat 3mo ago

zuzululu 3mo ago

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ofjcihen 3mo ago
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stringfood 3mo ago
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trumpdong 3mo ago
Why'd people downvote this? The minimum you need to be doing is pasting role descriptions and your résumé into ChatGPT and asking: should I hire this person? Because that's what every company's HR department is doing (automatically) and if the answer is no, then you may as well not bother sending the application. Or you could tweak it until it says yes.
- zuzululu 3mo ago
  I think earlier there were few HN users who didn't like my opinions on another thread, came here to flag and downvote my comments and leave rather mean replies all over my profile. I don't think much of it and I forgive people who do it. Or maybe there really are people who think its okay to use AI to hire/filter candidates but not when candidates use AI to optimize to get around that screen. Using AI, I've been able to land several interviews and work 3 jobs remotely currently without much effort.
  - trumpdong 3mo ago
    How did you do that? I don't get many interviews even after making sure AI likes my resume.
    - zuzululu 3mo ago
      I applied to 1000 jobs over the year 17 interviews 5 offers I accepted 3 of them and work 16 hours a day. So thats roughly 5 hours of deep work per day. if I wasn't remote working then the extra 3~5 hours would've been spent on commute, figuring out where to eat, silly banters with coworkers or office politics and just non-essential stuff that anti-remote people advocate for. I would accepted all 5 if I could but its just impossible to fit more than 3 stand up meetings in different time zones. It's also tricky at times to manage schedule, you have to keep your work space segregated. So it's a combination of Resume strength (don't spend too much time on polishing it with AI as it can't replace experience) and market demand (really question if you have anything special) Don't get discouraged brother! I hope this can help you.
  - buttercraft 3mo ago
    [flagged]
    - zuzululu 3mo ago
      > because you wished death upon a member of this community in an earlier comment where did i say this ? this is getting weird now. can you please follow HN guidelines and keep discussions relevant ? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - smithoc 3mo ago
    So you've used AI to do fraud and you're confused why people are opposed to this? You're the reason companies are pushing return to office and putting candidates through gauntlets of interviews and homework - because otherwise they end up hiring someone who lied on their resume and is trying to collect 3 salaries until they get caught and fired.
xarope 3mo ago
part of this I understand is survival. And I understand why you do this. The other part of this is why it's so frustrating for me to find the right person. Everybody's resume looks perfect for the role, and I have to waste 30-45 mins digging into their actual experience. You have done yourself a great disservice by wasting that time sitting in an interview you were not qualified for, and worse still I always feel there are other, more qualified people, who I have missed/passed over their resume since it wasn't AI tuned. Sincerely, I don't know how t make this better.
- zuzululu 3mo ago
  I understand your frustration and i hope to have a earnest discussion on this. One of the 3 jobs require hiring other developers. I don't find it difficult at all. I have my own intuition and technique I rely on. If you are wasting 30~45 minutes on a resume, you are probably chasing the wrong signals. It's not my fault. > You have done yourself a great disservice by wasting that time sitting in an interview you were not qualified for, and worse still I always feel there are other, more qualified people, who I have missed/passed over their resume since it wasn't AI tuned. How can I know if I meet the prospective employee's criteria or not before I do the interview? How am I to be held reliable for other people's failure to make themselves visible or your frankly your lack of skill at recruiment? It's convenient to blame AI for any shortcomings these days but if you don't know what you are doing, you were always going to reach for something external something imagined to deflect your own areas that need improvement.

gavinray 3mo ago

The job market is rough. My wife went back to school for audio/sound design, finished the program + got a bunch of certifications. She's been trying to get anything, even an unpaid internship, doing sound design, going to local meetups, online conferences, and hasn't had much luck. But I told her: it's just a matter of persistence and time. If you're agreeable to be around, passionate about something, and just show up everyday, eventually something is likely to happen.

Joel_Mckay 3mo ago
Without a portfolio it will be difficult. Would recommend joining a local film club, and get a few small projects done. Additionally, volunteer with local church events, or regular city music festivals. Also, could join the local union intake for the production studios. It will be awful until one gets the base hours completed, but it is a feast or famine kind of work schedule some can tolerate. Fine work if you are still a kid. Finding stuff online is usually a fools errand these days mostly due to "AI" data mining operations, or outright cons. Best of luck =3
- ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago
  The key, for me, was to get a computer. Once I had that, the world opened up. It allowed me to "get my hands dirty," and experiment, as well as build a portfolio. To this day, I have a large amount of public code. It's a habit that I've had, all my adult life.
jzemeocala 3mo ago
As someone who has worked in the music sphere with many hats over the past few decades: her best shot is to get people talking about her, perhaps find some local musicians she likes and offer cheap\free recordings to fill in her portfolio and get that word of mouth started. Successful people in the music world (both on and off stage) HAVE to mingle with musicians (not other engineers) heavily to get noticed and recommended
firesteelrain 3mo ago
I applied to 100+ places in 2005. Took a job an hour from home for a year and half. Eventually found something closer to home. You take what you can find at the time until you find where you want to be