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It’s slightly confusingly phrased, but the full sentence is: > The trombone is the only brass instrument in a classical orchestra […] where the main mode of pi
by bradrn 4mo ago
It’s slightly confusingly phrased, but the full sentence is:
> The trombone is the only brass instrument in a classical orchestra […] where the main mode of pitch control is by moving the tuning slide.
Which is correct.
- jeffbee 4mo agoOh, I read that as an independent statement, rather than one qualifying the first.
- jordanwallwork 4mo agoYou read "where the main mode of pitch control is by moving the tuning slide" as an independent statement? What does that mean on its own?
- jeffbee 4mo agoThe interrupting parenthetical was so disruptive to the sentence that I thought it said, essentially, "The trombone is the only brass instrument. Parenthetical. The trombone is played by moving the slide."
- madcaptenor 4mo agoI had the same confusion - I'd move the [...] to the following sentence.
- mrhottakes 4mo agoThe trumpet, french horn, tuba, and euphonium also rely on the tuning slide to control pitch, so that's not an accurate statement.
- jeffbee 4mo agoIndeed, a trumpet has one slide for tuning only and two more slides that are used while playing, so it's not even technically correct.
- Polizeiposaune 4mo agoYep. A basic trumpet has more slides than a basic trombone.
- bluGill 4mo agoYour trumpet maybe, but my trumpet from 1957 only has tuning slides, which cannot be used while playing.
- jeffbee 4mo agoInteresting. A student horn I guess? I've never owned one that didn't have at least a third valve slide ring. I think they were widespread around the time that the trumpet really took over from the cornet, around 1900-1920. My pre-War Olds has moving slides.
- bluGill 4mo agoI know a few cases where slides were added later. I don't know when they became common but impression is layer.
- mbrameld 4mo agoDo you mainly control pitch with the tuning slide or the valves on those instruments? I think you mainly control pitch with the valves and only supplement with a tuning slide for certain notes, depending on the instrument, and therefore the statement is accurate.
- analog31 4mo agoMainly the valves. The tuning slides help with a number of things, including the fact that the harmonics (notes above the first ocatave) are not precisely in tune with the fundamentals. A trumpet typically has a trigger lever or a loop for your finger on one or two of the tuning slides. You use it as needed. If you're playing a really fast passage, you'll likely skip it, but shorter notes are harder to place the precise pitch anyway. If you really want to see tuning slides in action, find a video of a good tuba soloist.
- jeffbee 4mo agoThe slides are needed, at least on the trumpet, because the tuning is perfect when using one valve but it's way off when you use two at once.
- Polizeiposaune 4mo agoTheir terminology is odd. The thing you move while playing is generally called the hand slide. There's nearly always a separate tuning slide located in the crook of the bell section. (Some relatively rare instruments like the Shires Alto do "tuning in slide" with a mechanism for fine adjustment in the hand slide). If you're also moving the tuning slide in the middle of a piece you're probably a bass trombonist doing the now-impossible glissando (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJPeA_1g48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJPeA_1g48) in the Bartok concerto for orchestra.
- JeremyHerrman 4mo agoI was thinking the same thing. The tuning slide is not what you use while playing, it's the separate slide on the bell side of the trombone for fine adjustment to ensure you're in tune with the rest of the band.