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WinDbg is a cool, but debug.com predates it by quite a bit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command)
by hackyhacky 4mo ago
WinDbg is a cool, but debug.com predates it by quite a bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debug_(command)
- modeless 4mo agoThus making it "a similar tool for the modern era" as you were asking for, IMO. My favorite thing about WinDbg is that many people pronounce it "Windbag".
- hackyhacky 4mo agoWinDbg is just a debugger: it does not assemble or disassemble. It can't patch running programs in memory. Moreover, I don't consider Windows to be part of the modern era, as I haven't used a Windows machine for 20 years. So, no, WinDbg has nothing to do with debug.com.
- dwattttt 4mo agoActually, I didn't even get to this part of your message, windbg absolutely can patch currently running programs. It does all the things you think it can't do.
- dwattttt 4mo agoI'm not sure what you think a (native) debugger that can't disassemble would look like; I assure you it disassembles the instructions you debug. Its assembler is sadly stuck in the pre-x86_64 era (and refuses to do arm at all), however it disassembles all of those fine. Signed: someone who does pronounce it wind bag
- nvme0n1p1 4mo ago> I don't consider Windows to be part of the modern era, as I haven't used a Windows machine for 20 years. I don't consider France to be part of the modern world, since I haven't visited Europe lately.
- hackyhacky 4mo agoA more apt analogy: I don't consider North Sentinel Island to be part of the modern world, since there is no relevant innovation going on there, it has no influence on the rest of the world, and there is nothing to be learned there.
- dwattttt 4mo agoYou miss debug.com, wish there was an equivalent for the modern era, find out that windbg does almost all these things today, and say there's nothing of value there. I say this as something who does all the things you described debug.com as doing, in this modern era.
- hackyhacky 4mo agoYou are missing the point. Windows is not a platform for serious people.
- nvme0n1p1 3mo agoMaybe so, but that's not what you claimed. You claimed that WinDbg "does not assemble or disassemble", when of course it does. Try to be more accurate with your claims if you want serious people to take you seriously.
- hackyhacky 3mo agoWhat I said, in part, is: > Moreover, I don't consider Windows to be part of the modern era, Why are you lying about what I said when everyone can see it?
- lucb1e 4mo agoOkay, but is it not what you wished for, "a similar tool for the modern era"? edit: I see I simul-posted with u/modeless, but I can't remove it now that there's a (duplicate) reply. Maybe mods can remove or at least collapse mine (their ID is one lower so they were first)
- hackyhacky 4mo agoWinDbg is just a debugger: it does not assemble or disassemble. It can't patch running programs in memory. Moreover, I don't consider Windows to be part of the modern era, as I haven't used a Windows machine for 20 years. So, no, WinDbg has nothing to do with debug.com.
- LastTrain 4mo agoFun! So how was OP supposed to know your very personal and weird definition of what is part of the modern era?
- hackyhacky 4mo agoIf OP wanted to know whether WinDbg and debug.com can be considered feature-similar, they could have read my first comment [1], where I specifically said that debug.com is a "debugger, *assembler*, and *disassembler*". Of those three features, WinDbg provides one. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48362927 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48362927