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The most surprising thing is that the whole world somehow has built dependency on Hormuz which has been known for decades that it is controlled by Iran, an adve
by ergocoder 4mo ago
The most surprising thing is that the whole world somehow has built dependency on Hormuz which has been known for decades that it is controlled by Iran, an adversarial actor to the west.
Nobody ever thinks of, you know, building redundancy for Hormuz?
- dgellow 4mo ago> Nobody ever thinks of, you know, building redundancy for Hormuz? When you have questions like that in mind, the answer is pretty much always „yes, that’s a well known topic of discussion in that field“ You can see alternatives that exist here: https://hormuzstraitmonitor.com/alternative-routes/ https://hormuzstraitmonitor.com/alternative-routes/ (Really neat website, I think it was shared on HN a few months ago?) There is a lot of other proposed routes but it’s actually pretty hard to create them in that region, lots of actors with their own interests and not the best history of collaboration. And Iran would definitely be against it given it reduces their influence
- 3eb7988a1663 4mo agoPipelines are also easily targeted, should an adversary wish to destroy one. There is no way to protect hundreds of miles of static infrastructure.
- bawolff 4mo agoThey are also relatively easy to repair, and somewhat hard to hit given they are under ground.
- bawolff 4mo agoThey actually have. I think both Saudi Arabia and UAE have built pipelines to bypass the strait. Not to mention USA investing heavily in fraking to counter balance the middle east...
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- dlubarov 4mo ago> They just want to raise families [...] Most ordinary Iranians, sure; certainly not the Islamic regime. It was their decision to train, fund and supply weapons to terrorist groups like Hezbollah, Hamas, PIJ and the Houthis since the early 80s.
- i_idiot 4mo agoEver thought why? For you they are terrorists, and for them they are resistance groups to prevent what Israel did in the last 2 years..occupy their lands an murder their people.
- throw47884 4mo agoIsrael has never occupied Yemen. They are like a thousand miles away but the slogan on the Houthi banner contains “death to Israel” and “curse the Jews”. They’re not even pretending not to be antisemitic.
- bluGill 4mo agoWhat has Israel done to Iran. Israel has done some bad things to neighbors but not Iran is not a neighbor
- vkou 4mo agoIn the past 60 years the Iranian regime has only closed the straight in retaliation to a second massive suckerpunch against it. I'd say they are acting in a far more restrained and reasonable manner than the belligerents in the 'west'. And most rational people are in agreement with me on this. Imagine what the US would have done in response to a massive surprise bombing attack that killed the president, most of the senior cabinet and military, struck bases across the country, sunk most of it's navy, and blew out a few elementary schools and apartment blocks and civilian infrastructure targets for good measure. The last time something that was a tiny fraction of that happened, it started two wars and killed half a million people (most of them from a country that had nothing to do with the attack). Iran's response was downright restrained. Here's a radical idea. Don't start wars with countries if you don't like the consequences.