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Neither you nor any of the other people making confident takes in either direction actually know. You're just guessing.
by tazjin 4mo ago
Neither you nor any of the other people making confident takes in either direction actually know. You're just guessing.
- cwillu 4mo agoMore like repeating their firmly entrenched preconceptions. Their claims may (or may not) be right, but there's very little if any new evidence being provided by either camp.
- throw310822 4mo agoThey are confidently hallucinating a factual statement. Which is funny when claiming that confident hallucinations are the proof of LLMs' lack of intelligence.
- WarmWash 4mo agoThe real uncomfortable thing is that because we cannot confidently know, the moral defacto position is to treat them like they are.
- themafia 4mo agoI know you "feel" pain because I can poke you and observe the result. If I do it enough there is permanent damage. Show this same phenomenon exists in LLMs.
- WarmWash 4mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
- jasondclinton 4mo agoWe did exactly that and published it last month right here: https://www.anthropic.com/research/emotion-concepts-function https://www.anthropic.com/research/emotion-concepts-function
- themafia 4mo agoOne side is making a positive assertion. The other is making a negative assertion. One side can prove it's right. The other, logically, cannot. One camp has to offer it's proof. If it has none then that _in and of itself_ is highly suggestive. People have fully turned their minds off on this subject. It's disgusting.
- themafia 4mo agoNo, you're just guessing, as you don't know a single thing about me, what I've researched, or what work I've done on this subject. Other than suggesting that I might be wrong, for what reasons one can only guess, you've actually offered nothing yourself. In any case, what data, if any at all, did you use to arrive at this egotistical assertion?
- tazjin 4mo agoYour posts are very much like "I have discovered a truly marvelous proof of this, which this margin is too narrow to contain". If a definitive answer on this topic was known then it, well, would be known.