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Could you elaborate on the reasoning they "strongly discourage math outside of school"? I'm genuinely curious how that would be a stance they take.

by niwtsol 4mo ago

rawgabbit 4mo ago
Not the OP. I assume the public school teachers don't want to answer when the student says "my Russian math teacher said to do this" instead of the common core math that is being taught. https://www.mathschool.com/blog/parent-resources/what-is-russian-math-anyway https://www.mathschool.com/blog/parent-resources/what-is-rus...
trunnell 4mo ago
We've heard: - It can make kids "overconfident when they see material they think they already know, so they end up not engaging." - Some programs, particularly RSM, are criticized for valuing speed over depth. Current culture for K-8 math teachers is the opposite, they value depth over speed. Left unsaid: - It can make the teacher's job harder when the class has a wide span of abilities. - Current teaching culture is skeptical of accelerating and/or skipping grades in math. Notably, we've never heard English teachers be upset about a kid reading a book outside of school that's above grade level, or using advanced vocabulary in an essay. They tend to praise it.
- sometimelurker 4mo ago
  > valuing speed over depth have you shown them the lengths of the homeworks RSM gives? vastly more depth than any hw a public school would give imo.
  - niwtsol 4mo ago
    I believe there are some public schools that have stopped giving homework for k-5 completely which is just shocking to me.
- niwtsol 4mo ago
  Got it, thanks for the response - I think my honest reaction is shocked by reading this. I was always good at math and it was such a source of pride and sense of accomplishment. In english I struggled, vowel sounds, grammar, it just didn't come naturally to me. I'm a little disheartened by this slide (for lack of a better word) of public school education, especially STEM.
- derwiki 4mo ago
  Maybe part of it is that math is objective and writing is subjective? A math teacher could be called out by a 13 yo for “being wrong” but for an English teacher, what is “wrong”?

Could you elaborate on the reasoning they "strongly discourage math outside of school"? I'm genuinely curious how that would be a stance they take.

by niwtsol 4mo ago

Could you elaborate on the reasoning they "strongly discourage math outside of school"? I'm genuinely curious how that would be a stance they take.

rawgabbit 4mo ago

Not the OP. I assume the public school teachers don't want to answer when the student says "my Russian math teacher said to do this" instead of the common core math that is being taught. https://www.mathschool.com/blog/parent-resources/what-is-russian-math-anyway https://www.mathschool.com/blog/parent-resources/what-is-rus...

trunnell 4mo ago

We've heard: - It can make kids "overconfident when they see material they think they already know, so they end up not engaging." - Some programs, particularly RSM, are criticized for valuing speed over depth. Current culture for K-8 math teachers is the opposite, they value depth over speed. Left unsaid: - It can make the teacher's job harder when the class has a wide span of abilities. - Current teaching culture is skeptical of accelerating and/or skipping grades in math. Notably, we've never heard English teachers be upset about a kid reading a book outside of school that's above grade level, or using advanced vocabulary in an essay. They tend to praise it.

sometimelurker 4mo ago
> valuing speed over depth have you shown them the lengths of the homeworks RSM gives? vastly more depth than any hw a public school would give imo.
- niwtsol 4mo ago
  I believe there are some public schools that have stopped giving homework for k-5 completely which is just shocking to me.
niwtsol 4mo ago
Got it, thanks for the response - I think my honest reaction is shocked by reading this. I was always good at math and it was such a source of pride and sense of accomplishment. In english I struggled, vowel sounds, grammar, it just didn't come naturally to me. I'm a little disheartened by this slide (for lack of a better word) of public school education, especially STEM.
derwiki 4mo ago
Maybe part of it is that math is objective and writing is subjective? A math teacher could be called out by a 13 yo for “being wrong” but for an English teacher, what is “wrong”?