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I cannot express how much I admire this post. This is how I think women should address gender equality: not by antagonizing men, but through sound and assertive

I cannot express how much I admire this post. This is how I think women should address gender equality: not by antagonizing men, but through sound and assertive work like this.

drivebyacct2 14y ago
define: backhanded compliment
- ciriarte 14y ago
  Not at all. I truly admire it. I recognize I don't even have the technical skills to replicate it (I wish). It was never my intention to belittle her efforts, I'm sorry if my comment came out like that.
gcheong 14y ago
Men getting antagonistic when their sexist behavior is called out is not the fault of the women calling that behavior out.
- derleth 14y ago
  > Men getting antagonistic when their sexist behavior is called out That isn't all that happens, as you can see from the comments like "Oh, yes, men have it so hard" whenever a situation that favors females over males is brought up.
  - drivebyacct2 14y ago
    I was praying that one was sarcasm...
    - derleth 14y ago
      > I was praying that one was sarcasm... It's part of a culture, one men perpetrate just as much as women if not more, that says "women are the only victims of sexism." If that statement doesn't seem immediately idiotic to you, the best I can offer right now is this: http://www.alternet.org/story/156194/what_about_the_men_why_our_gender_system_sucks_for_men%2C_too http://www.alternet.org/story/156194/what_about_the_men_why_...
      - drivebyacct2 14y ago
        No one says that. No one here is saying that. To portray the reaction that has taken place here, scoffing because it is female and sexual, is in and of itself sexist. Reverse discrimination sucks for whites, maybe I should question every submission that is authored by someone who isn't white? You'll note that I address male taboos about sex in other posts, but ironically it's probably not what you want or what you're really getting at without being explicit about. Do you understand that "any female-positive topic" -> "what about the menz" is exactly the problem with this attitude?
        derleth 14y ago
        > Do you understand that "any female-positive topic" -> "what about the menz" is exactly the problem with this attitude? It would be nice if "gender equality topics" weren't exclusively "female-positive topics", and that the topics about how men get the bad end of sexism weren't immediately met with sarcasm and derision.
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namdnay 14y ago
The irony is that one of the rare articles by a woman hacker is written by someone who was a hacker long before he became a woman. But maybe it can also encourage other women to hack? Fingers crossed..

I cannot express how much I admire this post. This is how I think women should address gender equality: not by antagonizing men, but through sound and assertive work like this.

drivebyacct2 14y ago

define: backhanded compliment

ciriarte 14y ago
Not at all. I truly admire it. I recognize I don't even have the technical skills to replicate it (I wish). It was never my intention to belittle her efforts, I'm sorry if my comment came out like that.

gcheong 14y ago

Men getting antagonistic when their sexist behavior is called out is not the fault of the women calling that behavior out.

derleth 14y ago
> Men getting antagonistic when their sexist behavior is called out That isn't all that happens, as you can see from the comments like "Oh, yes, men have it so hard" whenever a situation that favors females over males is brought up.
- drivebyacct2 14y ago
  I was praying that one was sarcasm...
  - derleth 14y ago
    > I was praying that one was sarcasm... It's part of a culture, one men perpetrate just as much as women if not more, that says "women are the only victims of sexism." If that statement doesn't seem immediately idiotic to you, the best I can offer right now is this: http://www.alternet.org/story/156194/what_about_the_men_why_our_gender_system_sucks_for_men%2C_too http://www.alternet.org/story/156194/what_about_the_men_why_...
    - drivebyacct2 14y ago
      No one says that. No one here is saying that. To portray the reaction that has taken place here, scoffing because it is female and sexual, is in and of itself sexist. Reverse discrimination sucks for whites, maybe I should question every submission that is authored by someone who isn't white? You'll note that I address male taboos about sex in other posts, but ironically it's probably not what you want or what you're really getting at without being explicit about. Do you understand that "any female-positive topic" -> "what about the menz" is exactly the problem with this attitude?
      - derleth 14y ago
        > Do you understand that "any female-positive topic" -> "what about the menz" is exactly the problem with this attitude? It would be nice if "gender equality topics" weren't exclusively "female-positive topics", and that the topics about how men get the bad end of sexism weren't immediately met with sarcasm and derision.
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namdnay 14y ago

The irony is that one of the rare articles by a woman hacker is written by someone who was a hacker long before he became a woman. But maybe it can also encourage other women to hack? Fingers crossed..