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I can get PR in Singapore through my partner, so no 60%. Company paid medical and everything so expat life and no responsibilities. And if I were ever have to h

by shell0x 4mo ago

I can get PR in Singapore through my partner, so no 60%. Company paid medical and everything so expat life and no responsibilities. And if I were ever have to have kids, you can’t hire a maid here sleeping at your apartment and you have to clean yourself which is ridiculous. In Hk, SG, Dubai you can get domestic helpers cheaply and they take care of everything

BLKNSLVR 4mo ago
> And if I were ever have to have kids, you can’t hire a maid here sleeping at your apartment and you have to clean yourself which is ridiculous. Not sure if serious. If serious: This is a really weird and almost sociopathic thing to say. I really don't get where you're coming from. It's certainly not the cultural direction I'd like to see Australia moving in.
- shell0x 4mo ago
  You realize this is the standard in Asia right? They only cost like 2.5k a month which is pretty good value https://www.life.gov.sg/guides/domestic-helper https://www.life.gov.sg/guides/domestic-helper https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services/visas/foreign_domestic_helpers.html https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services/visas/foreign_domestic_...
  - BLKNSLVR 4mo ago
    OK, just seems weird from my cultural experience, and the way I was reading your comment it sounded 'entitled' (likely due to the cultural difference). Describing it as "pretty good value" bothers me in a number of contexts. I'm also fine with this never becoming a thing in Australia. Not sure how out-of-touch or in-touch that makes me, but that's how I feel nonetheless. @Loocid, thanks for saying what I was dancing around.
  - Loocid 4mo ago
    Its too close to slavery for my liking. Yes they are paid but 2.5k per month is very low for Singapore, they work massive hours, they rely on you for shelter, and are very likely from much poorer neighbouring countries that are trying to support family back home. The whole power dynamic is extremely exploitable which results in a lot of abuse cases.
    - shell0x 4mo ago
      They would be much worse off if they stay in their own country and they even get 1 day rest per week.
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      - Loocid 4mo ago
        Yes exactly, which is why the system is so ripe for abuse. A third of live in maids in Singapore report abuse by their employers. I don't consider taking someone out of a shit situation into a slightly less shit situation for your huge benefit all that benevolent personally.
shushpanchik 4mo ago
Mate, 3 months ago you admitted on HN that you never get Singapore PR, just admit you want to moan how west is bad. I pay more taxes than you, and that's ok, Australia worth it. > shell0x 3 months ago | As a white person, I’d probably never get PR too but I think it’s good that they maintain the current percentages, otherwise the country would turn unrecognizable like Germany or France

by shell0x 4mo ago

BLKNSLVR 4mo ago

> And if I were ever have to have kids, you can’t hire a maid here sleeping at your apartment and you have to clean yourself which is ridiculous. Not sure if serious. If serious: This is a really weird and almost sociopathic thing to say. I really don't get where you're coming from. It's certainly not the cultural direction I'd like to see Australia moving in.

shell0x 4mo ago
You realize this is the standard in Asia right? They only cost like 2.5k a month which is pretty good value https://www.life.gov.sg/guides/domestic-helper https://www.life.gov.sg/guides/domestic-helper https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services/visas/foreign_domestic_helpers.html https://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services/visas/foreign_domestic_...
- BLKNSLVR 4mo ago
  OK, just seems weird from my cultural experience, and the way I was reading your comment it sounded 'entitled' (likely due to the cultural difference). Describing it as "pretty good value" bothers me in a number of contexts. I'm also fine with this never becoming a thing in Australia. Not sure how out-of-touch or in-touch that makes me, but that's how I feel nonetheless. @Loocid, thanks for saying what I was dancing around.
- Loocid 4mo ago
  Its too close to slavery for my liking. Yes they are paid but 2.5k per month is very low for Singapore, they work massive hours, they rely on you for shelter, and are very likely from much poorer neighbouring countries that are trying to support family back home. The whole power dynamic is extremely exploitable which results in a lot of abuse cases.
  - shell0x 4mo ago
    They would be much worse off if they stay in their own country and they even get 1 day rest per week.
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    - Loocid 4mo ago
      Yes exactly, which is why the system is so ripe for abuse. A third of live in maids in Singapore report abuse by their employers. I don't consider taking someone out of a shit situation into a slightly less shit situation for your huge benefit all that benevolent personally.

shushpanchik 4mo ago

Mate, 3 months ago you admitted on HN that you never get Singapore PR, just admit you want to moan how west is bad. I pay more taxes than you, and that's ok, Australia worth it. > shell0x 3 months ago | As a white person, I’d probably never get PR too but I think it’s good that they maintain the current percentages, otherwise the country would turn unrecognizable like Germany or France