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The website is a little too obviously made by Claude. The first thing I noticed is the classic "pill with pulsing green dot that says something is active or liv

The website is a little too obviously made by Claude. The first thing I noticed is the classic "pill with pulsing green dot that says something is active or live" claudism.

redrove 4mo ago
I’m genuinely interested in what you find to be the problem with that? It’s a landing page.
- xienze 4mo ago
  The usual answer is some handwavy nonsense about "well if you were too lazy to write the text, why should I read it?" said by the same people too lazy to write the code...
shideneyu 4mo ago
The video of the front page is assisted by AI, I am not a vfx artist; please check rmux code architecture instead, I put a lot of efforts on it
- powvans 4mo ago
  For what it's worth I genuinely loved your landing page. I casually clicked through and got an immediate unexpected chuckle at the giant animated crab. It's obviously AI assisted but I interpreted it as a nod to itself on that and really appreciated it.
  - shideneyu 4mo ago
    Thank you ! I am proud of my little blue crab haha. I got it thanks to a lot of iteration between gpt image 2.0 and see dance 2
- saghm 4mo ago
  FWIW, I did suspect AI was probably used when looking through the README, but it also didn't really impact my opinion much because the value proposition of "I can use a Rust library to control this through the same primitives the tool itself uses instead of writing a bunch of shell scripts" far outweighs that. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet but plan to later today, and ultimately the experience I have is going to matter a lot more to me than what tools you used to generate the README visuals. I've tried out plenty of things that seemed promising but turned out to have sloppy implementations before the LLM days, and I've also used some things that are ostensibly vibe-coded but had shockingly high quality of UX compared to the alternatives because the creators put in time and effort into polish beyond what people who make software the "traditional" way tend to, so to me, the important signal is what level of care went into the creation of the software. I'm hoping that this project turns out to be one of the good ones, and if it is, the people who dismiss it because of vibes (pun intended) will be the ones missing out.
- vunderba 4mo ago
  I wouldn't worry too much about it. I think the big AI standout (not your fault) is the classic GenAI lightning that behaves more like a weird viscous liquid. Another one I see a lot is the number of avian creatures flapping their wings with all the subtlety and grace of an ornithopter going in reverse. Feedback Your site needs some work on the responsiveness. At around 1200 pixels width on my browser, half of the video just gets cut off. It just doesn't scale correctly.
jarym 4mo ago
So?
- shideneyu 4mo ago
  @jarym what don't you like with the homepage ? I am curious how I can improve
  - FergusArgyll 4mo ago
    I like it
  - jarym 4mo ago
    I like it, and I’m not bothered if it was made with AI or not. Good work as far as I’m concerned
Oras 4mo ago
and why this is a problem? I found the landing page covering exactly what the product does, with nice demos and examples.
cultofmetatron 4mo ago
commonlisp (sbcl) is one of the best sleeper techs out there. one of those if you're in the know type industry secrets. part of it is because their website looks like something out of the 90's. clearly having a nice website and some level of marketing is necessary to get adoption. Im more than happy to see devs use AI to automate that so they have more time to focus on their creations.
- alcasa 4mo ago
  Isn't lisp getting advertisement every couple months here or so. After so many decades I don't believe the reason lisp doesn't have traction is just marketing.
  - saghm 4mo ago
    Given that Hacker News somewhat famously was written in lisp, "an advertisement every couple of months here" probably translates to an order of magnitude less in places that have a lower density of long-time lisp fans from the early days.
stefanfisk 4mo ago
Not to mention those absolutely horrible scroll animations.
- shideneyu 4mo ago
  you don't like parallax effects ? maybe I'm too 2010 for you
  - backwardsponcho 4mo ago
    I think the issue is that the parallax is choppy in your page. For whatever it's worth, I typically don't care much about parallax in itself but I thought the same thing about the scrolling not being smooth.
  - stefanfisk 4mo ago
    I’ve never seen a scroll related animation that I didn’t hate to some degree. I suspect that the issue is that I skim and scroll REALLY fast and the animations always break the feeling of the page being a real surface. Apple is the worst offender. Some of their product pages make me physically uncomfortable like when you miscount the number of steps in a stair and step into empty air. And it’s not that I’m sensitive to animations or motion in general. Video games are no problem at all even when the physics make no sense. There’s something special about how good scrolling is on Apple’s trackpads and mobile screens which causes a really deep immersion for me. I have an Ubuntu desktop with an old school scroll wheel mouse and there the animations are just annoying but not uncomfortable.
ookblah 4mo ago
"site made by ai" is the new "bootstrap template" criticism that honestly gets tiring after a while. just read the content.
- shideneyu 4mo ago
  And the site is actually quite cool I believe , I put a lot of efforts in the design.
- herrj 4mo ago
  If there’s anything I don’t mind being done with AI, it’s a product landing page. There are only so many ways to creatively design one, so who cares how it was made?
perseusai 4mo ago
As someone new to this site, I understand wanting to keep the AI Slop at bay, but for some of us, it's been a boon to get our ideas into an actual working application. I have decades of IT/Network/Enterprise experience, but creating and writing a complex tool would have been well beyond my abilities or patience. I had a friend say that AI is a "scourge on the intellectually lazy" and I couldn't really refute that, but I had to add that it is a boon to a lazy intellectual, which I consider myself to be.
- Sirental 4mo ago
  I'm not saying don't use AI. It's alright to use AI in my books, I'm just saying watch out for obvious hints. Some people translate that to "this product is cheap" even if it isn't at all the case. I understand you've put a hell of a lot of work into this. You might want to have a look at https://www.awwwards.com/ https://www.awwwards.com/ and take some inspiration for some of the designs, then write up a general spec sheet of how the website should look and feed that into Claude. Otherwise Claude just does what a language model does best, and regurgitates a lot of the same styles.

The website is a little too obviously made by Claude. The first thing I noticed is the classic "pill with pulsing green dot that says something is active or live" claudism.

redrove 4mo ago

I’m genuinely interested in what you find to be the problem with that? It’s a landing page.

xienze 4mo ago
The usual answer is some handwavy nonsense about "well if you were too lazy to write the text, why should I read it?" said by the same people too lazy to write the code...

shideneyu 4mo ago

The video of the front page is assisted by AI, I am not a vfx artist; please check rmux code architecture instead, I put a lot of efforts on it

powvans 4mo ago
For what it's worth I genuinely loved your landing page. I casually clicked through and got an immediate unexpected chuckle at the giant animated crab. It's obviously AI assisted but I interpreted it as a nod to itself on that and really appreciated it.
- shideneyu 4mo ago
  Thank you ! I am proud of my little blue crab haha. I got it thanks to a lot of iteration between gpt image 2.0 and see dance 2
saghm 4mo ago
FWIW, I did suspect AI was probably used when looking through the README, but it also didn't really impact my opinion much because the value proposition of "I can use a Rust library to control this through the same primitives the tool itself uses instead of writing a bunch of shell scripts" far outweighs that. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet but plan to later today, and ultimately the experience I have is going to matter a lot more to me than what tools you used to generate the README visuals. I've tried out plenty of things that seemed promising but turned out to have sloppy implementations before the LLM days, and I've also used some things that are ostensibly vibe-coded but had shockingly high quality of UX compared to the alternatives because the creators put in time and effort into polish beyond what people who make software the "traditional" way tend to, so to me, the important signal is what level of care went into the creation of the software. I'm hoping that this project turns out to be one of the good ones, and if it is, the people who dismiss it because of vibes (pun intended) will be the ones missing out.
vunderba 4mo ago
I wouldn't worry too much about it. I think the big AI standout (not your fault) is the classic GenAI lightning that behaves more like a weird viscous liquid. Another one I see a lot is the number of avian creatures flapping their wings with all the subtlety and grace of an ornithopter going in reverse. Feedback Your site needs some work on the responsiveness. At around 1200 pixels width on my browser, half of the video just gets cut off. It just doesn't scale correctly.

jarym 4mo ago

So?

shideneyu 4mo ago
@jarym what don't you like with the homepage ? I am curious how I can improve
- FergusArgyll 4mo ago
  I like it
- jarym 4mo ago
  I like it, and I’m not bothered if it was made with AI or not. Good work as far as I’m concerned

Oras 4mo ago

and why this is a problem? I found the landing page covering exactly what the product does, with nice demos and examples.

cultofmetatron 4mo ago

commonlisp (sbcl) is one of the best sleeper techs out there. one of those if you're in the know type industry secrets. part of it is because their website looks like something out of the 90's. clearly having a nice website and some level of marketing is necessary to get adoption. Im more than happy to see devs use AI to automate that so they have more time to focus on their creations.

alcasa 4mo ago
Isn't lisp getting advertisement every couple months here or so. After so many decades I don't believe the reason lisp doesn't have traction is just marketing.
- saghm 4mo ago
  Given that Hacker News somewhat famously was written in lisp, "an advertisement every couple of months here" probably translates to an order of magnitude less in places that have a lower density of long-time lisp fans from the early days.

stefanfisk 4mo ago

Not to mention those absolutely horrible scroll animations.

shideneyu 4mo ago
you don't like parallax effects ? maybe I'm too 2010 for you
- backwardsponcho 4mo ago
  I think the issue is that the parallax is choppy in your page. For whatever it's worth, I typically don't care much about parallax in itself but I thought the same thing about the scrolling not being smooth.
- stefanfisk 4mo ago
  I’ve never seen a scroll related animation that I didn’t hate to some degree. I suspect that the issue is that I skim and scroll REALLY fast and the animations always break the feeling of the page being a real surface. Apple is the worst offender. Some of their product pages make me physically uncomfortable like when you miscount the number of steps in a stair and step into empty air. And it’s not that I’m sensitive to animations or motion in general. Video games are no problem at all even when the physics make no sense. There’s something special about how good scrolling is on Apple’s trackpads and mobile screens which causes a really deep immersion for me. I have an Ubuntu desktop with an old school scroll wheel mouse and there the animations are just annoying but not uncomfortable.

ookblah 4mo ago

"site made by ai" is the new "bootstrap template" criticism that honestly gets tiring after a while. just read the content.

shideneyu 4mo ago
And the site is actually quite cool I believe , I put a lot of efforts in the design.
herrj 4mo ago
If there’s anything I don’t mind being done with AI, it’s a product landing page. There are only so many ways to creatively design one, so who cares how it was made?

perseusai 4mo ago

As someone new to this site, I understand wanting to keep the AI Slop at bay, but for some of us, it's been a boon to get our ideas into an actual working application. I have decades of IT/Network/Enterprise experience, but creating and writing a complex tool would have been well beyond my abilities or patience. I had a friend say that AI is a "scourge on the intellectually lazy" and I couldn't really refute that, but I had to add that it is a boon to a lazy intellectual, which I consider myself to be.

Sirental 4mo ago
I'm not saying don't use AI. It's alright to use AI in my books, I'm just saying watch out for obvious hints. Some people translate that to "this product is cheap" even if it isn't at all the case. I understand you've put a hell of a lot of work into this. You might want to have a look at https://www.awwwards.com/ https://www.awwwards.com/ and take some inspiration for some of the designs, then write up a general spec sheet of how the website should look and feed that into Claude. Otherwise Claude just does what a language model does best, and regurgitates a lot of the same styles.