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Do you think the US is going to have Nuremberg trials? Do you think there will be a deep national reckoning about what happened?
by guyzero 4mo ago
Do you think the US is going to have Nuremberg trials? Do you think there will be a deep national reckoning about what happened?
- MisterTea 4mo agoNever say never. > Do you think there will be a deep national reckoning about what happened? About half of the people I know who voted for Trump this past election have deep regrets.
- xethos 4mo agoDo they regret voting Republican, or do they regret voting for this particular Republican candidate?
- mindslight 4mo agoThis is the crux. Trump is simultaneously a wholesale departure from political norms, but also merely a culmination of decades of reactionary talk radio preaching "Death to America" but then backing it off just enough for people to go to the polls and vote for "their" candidate. Trump's second term should be the end of the Republican party. But if Bush II is an indication, the pattern was that while people gradually came around to seeing what a bad idea the Iraq War was and whatnot, they merely cooled off for a few years but then were right back at it getting fooled again a slightly different way. How much of the support for Trump was basically recycled criticism of the Iraq War (ie of the Republican establishment) ? And yet here we are now, with a nice shiny new quagmire (assuming it isn't an outright loss). fwiw I'm a libertarian so while I actually agree with much of the criticism, it galls me even more how people can start with very individual-liberty-centric criticisms, but then somehow gleefully jump behind supporting authoritarianism when it can be their turn at the trough.
- Steltek 4mo agoI have regrets when I say something dumb or drive through an intersection on a not-quite-yellow light. Innocent people, including children, are dead. Republicans have done irreparable harm to this country on every imaginable level: civil liberties, trade, global power, economics. Open and naked corruption is so off the charts it can only be described with comparisons to the post-Soviet era. "Regret" is, quite frankly, insulting.
- jmye 4mo agoI hope they are suffering deeply for it. They got exactly what they voted for.
- rjrjrjrj 4mo ago"Deep regrets" L-fucking-O-L What did they expect?
- amalcon 4mo agoWhat exactly do they have deep regrets about, though? Do they regret voting for someone with his style? Do they regret empowering an obvious corrupt liar? Do they regret supporting someone who focuses on who to blame and hurt, rather than on things that might actually help (albeit in regrettably marginal ways in all three cases)? Or do they just regret that they were fooled by this guy, specifically? That he's not accomplishing his stated goals, whether or not he is taking his promised actions? If it's this one, then it's only a matter of time before another charlatan does the same thing better.
- hardbass 4mo agoUsually they regret him not being extreme enough. Being personally harmed to a very high level also works. The keyword is very high level, people are willing to take a lot of pain for someone they think is "jesus".
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- AnimalMuppet 4mo agoI don't disagree. The Democrats believed their "permanent Democratic majority" schtick, and enacted a bunch of things that much of the country deeply disagreed with. But we also need a national reckoning on ICE's excessive use of force, DOGE, using the DOJ to prosecute political opponents, the financial irresponsibility of the "Big Beautiful Bill", the attack on the Capitol, the rest of the attempt to undermine the results of the 2020 elections, the tariffs by executive order, the threats to Canada and Greenland...
- throwawaypath 4mo agoI also don't disagree, we need a national reckoning on all the things!
- throwawaypath 4mo agoThis is my now flagged original comment. Upset some people: >Do you think there will be a deep national reckoning about what happened? You're witnessing one. This is the national reckoning on open borders, DEI/wokeism, etc.