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Worse? Are you serious? In EU, Czechia. Foreign(french lol) banks are banning accounts because you work in gun manufacturing industry. In EU. When 2 countries

by Fokamul 4mo ago

Worse? Are you serious? In EU, Czechia. Foreign(french lol) banks are banning accounts because you work in gun manufacturing industry. In EU. When 2 countries from you, there is a FCKIN' war happening. Only because France, Germany, UK and similar countries are against guns and against self-defense, where your only option is to lay on the ground and let the attacker kill you. Luckily we can still use guns for self-defense, we can conceal carry by default and we will fight EU laws till our death for this. (pepper sprays, knives and even katana, whatever. Heh that's a joke, but for real, you can use that without any permit, in theory.) EU Brusel is trying very hard to force these idiotic laws to every country. Eg.: they forced limited mags for rifles. We have bypassed that with local law haha, when you get a gun permit (which is not easy, but not impossible) you just fill a paper with "a gun buy order" for the police and you are by law allowed to have unlimited magazine, silencer and special JHP ammo. Reason self-defense and defense of your property (default reason, police will only check same thing they've checked for gun permit. Your criminal record). And also luckily we don't need to use anything, because our criminality is a liiiiitle bit lower than France, Germany and UK. You know why. But tide is changing, Poland will be biggest economy in EU in few years and their gun laws are also changing and we have a lot of common with them. I believe together with other reasonable countries (Slovakia, Hungary etc.) We will overturn this idiocy comming from France, Germany and other "west" countries. Btw I'm for EU, even for federalization of EU. But with US approach. EU should be no.1 country, yes country, in the world.

joe_mamba 4mo ago
>In EU, Czechia. Foreign(french lol) banks are banning accounts because you work in gun manufacturing industry. In EU. When 2 countries from you, there is a FCKIN' war happening. That shouldn't be happening. French banks on Czech soil should operate under Czech, not French laws. Otherwise the Czech banking authorities should go after them. Something is fishy about that. Also, which banks do French citizens working in the arms industry use if they're not allowed to? This is all very bizarre.
- Fokamul 4mo ago
  Yes this is very bizarre. But this is official story, contractors and employees who worked for Czech arms manufacturer got their personal! accounts disabled. They had mortgages in these accounts and bank notify them to move mortgage elsewhere. Reason given by bank, broken internal policy, we cannot disclose which. Goodbye. https://militarnyi.com/en/news/czech-banks-discriminate-against-arms-manufacturers-cooperating-with-ukraine/ https://militarnyi.com/en/news/czech-banks-discriminate-agai...
  - joe_mamba 4mo ago
    >Reason given by bank, broken internal policy, we cannot disclose which. Ridiculous. I'm sure what they did was illegal, the problem with such cases is that even if you take them to court and win, you'll still lose a lot of time, money and stress in the process of fighting a bank in court, while for the bank the lawsuit is just another small business expense. Centrain industries and businesses tend to act above the law even if they know they're in the wrong simply because the punishments if they get caught are too lax. That's why I'm a big fan of direct personal accountability. Like the person working at the bank who made the choice to close the accounts should go to jail. Because otherwise nefarious people simply hide behind the accountability shield of a large org where nobody is responsible for anything and accountability is always deflected.
    - econ 4mo ago
      Like big tech they may refuse service when they like to (which is crazy)
      - l23k4 4mo ago
        Why is it crazy? EU has the "basic payment account" scheme which makes sure that ultimately nobody is left without a bank account.
        econ 4mo ago
        Yeah, so they say. The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight. The us also freely debanks people (and their family!) in the eu without any kind of legal process. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2025/07/26/european-citizens-under-us-sanctions-are-being-erased-economically-and-socially-within-the-eu_6743730_23.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2025/07/26/europea... Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account but at the same time they may not disclose reporting you. So they are pretty much free to not respond. https://www.eccnet.eu/news/ecc-net-calls-stronger-enforcement-end-iban-discrimination-eu https://www.eccnet.eu/news/ecc-net-calls-stronger-enforcemen...
dormento 4mo ago
> In EU, Czechia. Foreign(french lol) banks are banning accounts because you work in gun manufacturing industry. I don't think that's how its supposed to work. So IF you're correct and a French entity of any kind is found breaking current Czech laws, THEN this must be reported and action must be taken against it, no matter the law, no discussions here. > Only because France, Germany, UK and similar countries are against guns and against self-defense, where your only option is to lay on the ground and let the attacker kill you. This is a big reduction to the absurd, and unnecessarily inflammatory. I'm no dang, but I would ask you to please refrain from such things, in the name of civil discourse. It could have been dishonestly framed in a number of other ways, for example, "Poland as a country is pro-violence and pro-crime, since they are arguably fond of shooting people". I know this must not be as simple, as "laying on the ground and letting the attacker kill you" does not look like a sound defense strategy. However, gun collecting and sports are not, to me, good reasons for owning firearms. To each their own. > Luckily we can still use guns for self-defense, we can conceal carry by default and we will fight EU laws till our death for this. > (pepper sprays, knives and even katana, whatever) Wow, go Brussels I guess. Hope they can eventually implement the "idiotic laws" that make people unable to kill each other with katanas.
l23k4 4mo ago
>In EU, Czechia. Foreign(french lol) banks are banning accounts because you work in gun manufacturing industry. In EU. When 2 countries from you, there is a FCKIN' war happening. Why do you think this is special? US banks will do this too lmao. There's not a single serious bank in the world that wouldn't consider this an incredibly high risk industry. The compliance load for banks is incredible, especially if you're selling those weapons internationally. >Only because France, Germany, UK and similar countries are against guns and against self-defense, where your only option is to lay on the ground and let the attacker kill you. All EU countries and the UK use pretty much the same wording when it comes to self defense. ECHR limits what the states can allow, Czechia isn't allowed to e.g. pass a law allowing you to shoot anyone who enters your home.

by Fokamul 4mo ago

joe_mamba 4mo ago

>In EU, Czechia. Foreign(french lol) banks are banning accounts because you work in gun manufacturing industry. In EU. When 2 countries from you, there is a FCKIN' war happening. That shouldn't be happening. French banks on Czech soil should operate under Czech, not French laws. Otherwise the Czech banking authorities should go after them. Something is fishy about that. Also, which banks do French citizens working in the arms industry use if they're not allowed to? This is all very bizarre.

Fokamul 4mo ago
Yes this is very bizarre. But this is official story, contractors and employees who worked for Czech arms manufacturer got their personal! accounts disabled. They had mortgages in these accounts and bank notify them to move mortgage elsewhere. Reason given by bank, broken internal policy, we cannot disclose which. Goodbye. https://militarnyi.com/en/news/czech-banks-discriminate-against-arms-manufacturers-cooperating-with-ukraine/ https://militarnyi.com/en/news/czech-banks-discriminate-agai...
- joe_mamba 4mo ago
  >Reason given by bank, broken internal policy, we cannot disclose which. Ridiculous. I'm sure what they did was illegal, the problem with such cases is that even if you take them to court and win, you'll still lose a lot of time, money and stress in the process of fighting a bank in court, while for the bank the lawsuit is just another small business expense. Centrain industries and businesses tend to act above the law even if they know they're in the wrong simply because the punishments if they get caught are too lax. That's why I'm a big fan of direct personal accountability. Like the person working at the bank who made the choice to close the accounts should go to jail. Because otherwise nefarious people simply hide behind the accountability shield of a large org where nobody is responsible for anything and accountability is always deflected.
  - econ 4mo ago
    Like big tech they may refuse service when they like to (which is crazy)
    - l23k4 4mo ago
      Why is it crazy? EU has the "basic payment account" scheme which makes sure that ultimately nobody is left without a bank account.
      - econ 4mo ago
        Yeah, so they say. The eu it self has a faceless committee that debanks people without a day in court or any oversight. The us also freely debanks people (and their family!) in the eu without any kind of legal process. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2025/07/26/european-citizens-under-us-sanctions-are-being-erased-economically-and-socially-within-the-eu_6743730_23.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/opinion/article/2025/07/26/europea... Banks are said to be required to state a reason for refusing or freezing an account but at the same time they may not disclose reporting you. So they are pretty much free to not respond. https://www.eccnet.eu/news/ecc-net-calls-stronger-enforcement-end-iban-discrimination-eu https://www.eccnet.eu/news/ecc-net-calls-stronger-enforcemen...

dormento 4mo ago

> In EU, Czechia. Foreign(french lol) banks are banning accounts because you work in gun manufacturing industry. I don't think that's how its supposed to work. So IF you're correct and a French entity of any kind is found breaking current Czech laws, THEN this must be reported and action must be taken against it, no matter the law, no discussions here. > Only because France, Germany, UK and similar countries are against guns and against self-defense, where your only option is to lay on the ground and let the attacker kill you. This is a big reduction to the absurd, and unnecessarily inflammatory. I'm no dang, but I would ask you to please refrain from such things, in the name of civil discourse. It could have been dishonestly framed in a number of other ways, for example, "Poland as a country is pro-violence and pro-crime, since they are arguably fond of shooting people". I know this must not be as simple, as "laying on the ground and letting the attacker kill you" does not look like a sound defense strategy. However, gun collecting and sports are not, to me, good reasons for owning firearms. To each their own. > Luckily we can still use guns for self-defense, we can conceal carry by default and we will fight EU laws till our death for this. > (pepper sprays, knives and even katana, whatever) Wow, go Brussels I guess. Hope they can eventually implement the "idiotic laws" that make people unable to kill each other with katanas.

l23k4 4mo ago

>In EU, Czechia. Foreign(french lol) banks are banning accounts because you work in gun manufacturing industry. In EU. When 2 countries from you, there is a FCKIN' war happening. Why do you think this is special? US banks will do this too lmao. There's not a single serious bank in the world that wouldn't consider this an incredibly high risk industry. The compliance load for banks is incredible, especially if you're selling those weapons internationally. >Only because France, Germany, UK and similar countries are against guns and against self-defense, where your only option is to lay on the ground and let the attacker kill you. All EU countries and the UK use pretty much the same wording when it comes to self defense. ECHR limits what the states can allow, Czechia isn't allowed to e.g. pass a law allowing you to shoot anyone who enters your home.